70mm Film FUN up ahead

Nokton48 said:
I think this is Cal's new JOBO tank. This is the early version of the 3013.

JOBO 3013 (early model) 1 by Nokton48, on Flickr

With the ribs, not the tubes inside the tank.

JOBO 3013 (early model) 2 by Nokton48, on Flickr
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Dan,

I used some guaze and dishwashing liquid to clean up my tank. Looks like only gently used. It came kinda dusty. The internal orange clips on many used JOBO's on EBAY are often damaged. Mine are pristine.

I wonder about rotational processing without a JOBO processor. This opens up being able to save on developer via less volume, and I can see me loading film onto three fifteen foot reels.

I can use one of my Kodak hard rubber 3 1/2 gallon tanks with lid as a loaded reel film safe.

Developing film does not get easier than this. The non daylight bulk loaders I have make for loading film onto reels easy to manage. The horizontal pivot/axel acts like a third hand to steady the reel and makes it easy to just spin the reel like a wheel.

Cal
 
Hey Cal,

Here is how I develop my B&W film, 35mm to 8x10. Unicolor Uniroller set inside a plastic dishwashing pan, with a couple of Patterson 5x7 trays to catch any spillage. I just tried this with the Kinderman, balancing half of it with my hand, because the single 70mm tank isn't long enough for the Uniroller. But it spins it just fine, so this will work for you with your new JOBO 3013. Truly lazy man's way to process (poor man's JOBO). Plug in a Gralab timer and walk away. That's how I do it. Especially great for really long development times.

I would stick with the Uniroller, because it is Uni-directional. Not the Beselar, Chromega, etc. They spin only one direction.

Unicolor Uniroller Setup for 70mm reel processing by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
I have a Beseler Motor Base where you can switch between continuous and reversing. I got it cheap on ebay, plan to use it on 8x10 film. It looks like it can handle quite large tanks.
 
Nokton48 said:
Hey Cal,

Here is how I develop my B&W film, 35mm to 8x10. Unicolor Uniroller set inside a plastic dishwashing pan, with a couple of Patterson 5x7 trays to catch any spillage. I just tried this with the Kinderman, balancing half of it with my hand, because the single 70mm tank isn't long enough for the Uniroller. But it spins it just fine, so this will work for you with your new JOBO 3013. Truly lazy man's way to process (poor man's JOBO). Plug in a Gralab timer and walk away. That's how I do it. Especially great for really long development times.

I would stick with the Uniroller, because it is Uni-directional. Not the Beselar, Chromega, etc. They spin only one direction.

Unicolor Uniroller Setup for 70mm reel processing by Nokton48, on Flickr
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Dan,

You know me: the self proclaimed lazy slacker. Now this is the next item. Boy can I now go full blown crazy. I'll lower the cost of developer; my cost for 120 equive will be about $3.00 a roll; and I'll process the quiv of 18-21 rolls of 120 in one tank instead of doing 4-5 two liter tanks.

This is the ultimate; low costs, cheap film, medium format, no need to constantly reload, no missed shots due to an empty camera or end of roll, and one tank 18-21 rolls of 120 equive.

Now to mix my own ADOX for cheap developer. With the Uniroller how could I not have consistent development.

Now 70mm is not looking so crazy. It is actually becoming very-very practical.

Thanks for this thread. If it were not for you I would not have "70mm Disease." LOL. Bonus is the huge slacker rig I developed.

So since the NYC Marathon in the beginning of November I have been hitting the gym. Lost about 5 pounds. My midsection is showing abs and I'm sure some flab has been converted into meaty lean muscle.

Carrying a 7 pound baby Linhof in NYC requires some toughening up. Like I said with every baby Linhof come a free gym membership. I use to be 5'10" and in a few weeks I'll be 60. Perhaps I'm only 5'9" but I'm 150 pounds and my body is looking like it did in high school. perhaps if I loose 2-3 pounds more I'll be ripped. Can't wait till the warm weather. Doing strength training and wind sprints on an elyptical.

Cal
 
I just bought this cool JOBO lighttight supplemental tank from German Ebay. Looks like it will hold two 70mm reels. That is a JOBO 70mm reel in the tank, but I don't think it comes with that!

70mm JOBO Supplementary Tank 2 by Nokton48, on Flickr

70mm JOBO Supplementary Tank by Nokton48, on Flickr


And today I finally got my money back from the Hasselblad 500 exposure back purchase and return. Hurray for Ebay!
 
Sinar Handy Quick Release by Nokton48, on Flickr

A $12 Quick release from China, and $1.12 in machine screws and bolts from Lowes, and ten minutes with my drill press. So the Norma Handy is now done! Does need a 1/4" to 3/8 tripod adapter, I will buy a few.

I can also mount the XL Grip below the Norma format frame, like the original Sinar Handys are configured. Also the camera feels heavy with the side grip. Underneath is much better for me.
 
Thanks Dan! A rather heavy rangefinder, 2.8 kg with the 150mm as shown. I will have to consider getting the Mamiya viewfinder extension if I can find one. The 70mm back is quite deep, so it's a bit cumbersome to use the viewfinder as it is now. Especially since I'm wearing glasses. Mamiya made diopters for these, but I've never seen one for sale.
 
Jake Mongey said:
Thanks for posting this, got in touch with the seller and he made a discounted offer - Ive just been paid so this is on my way to me! next month I just need to buy the a70 itself and I am good to go!
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Congrats Jake!

You have just bought something truly rare. The last one I saw on Ebay went for $550 US!!! You have done very well! :cool:
Catlabs (JOBO distributor) says just procure a regular rubber stopper, if you want to use it as an inversion tank. There are lots of A70s out there; We all know nobody uses film any more :rolleyes: Especially 70mm :rolleyes:

BTW I bought his 70mm JOBO lighttight tank; I think that is your JOBO 70mm reel in there.

70mm JOBO Supplementary Tank by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
Congrats Jake!

You have just bought something truly rare. The last one I saw on Ebay went for $550 US!!! You have done very well!
Catlabs (JOBO distributor) says just procure a regular rubber stopper, if you want to use it as an inversion tank. There are lots of A70s out there; We all know nobody uses film any more Especially 70mm

BTW I bought his 70mm JOBO lighttight tank; I think that is your JOBO 70mm reel in there.
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Thank you! Ive been searching for these every once and a while so I realised how good of a deal it was, im glad you shared it to this thread! Your reel does look a lot like mine - How is it to load?

Its all coming together now - theres a nice a70 which has been tested and comes with 3 70mm cassettes on the bay right now but ive exhausted my paycheck :(

Here it is if anyone wants to grab it:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hasselbl...002363?hash=item44127dad3b:g:-DcAAOSwnTdaL7RV

The only problem is now once I have everything ill probbably fancy a JOBO to go with the tank and do colour processing. In the words of my father "can you just do drugs instead? Its probably so much cheaper"
 
Jake Mongey said:
How is this to use? Ive always wondered about how the mamiya Rangefinders are, must be one hell of a beast with the 70mm back
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I have only one camera that is heavier than this; the Contax 645 with the 35mm lens weighs slightly more than 3 kg. But the Contax is so balanced that you don't notice it, it's like handling a 35mm SLR. This beast has a handle well to the side of the body and it's quite awkward to use handheld. Put on a tripod it's a very nice camera and very versatile. I have Polaroid backs, a 6x7 and a 6x9 back and now the 70mm. I've also used it for macro work with a ground glass. The lenses are all good and stop down to f45 or f64, nice for landscape shots. But it's probably best for people like me who enjoys slow photography. :)
 
Jake Mongey said:
Thanks for posting this, got in touch with the seller and he made a discounted offer - Ive just been paid so this is on my way to me! next month I just need to buy the a70 itself and I am good to go!
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Jake,

I'm glad that this tank and reel was secured by someone in the family. LOL.

The JOBO lid requires a rubber stopper that can seal the 1 1/16 inch opening.

You might want to secure a light tight non-daylight tank like Dan's so you can dip the reel into the JOBO to avoid long pour times. To cover a 15 foot 70mm reel it is about 2 liters, so the pour times are mucho long.

The quick dip into developer I think is important, but then stop and fix in a daylight tank is pure convenience.

Cal
 
Calzone said:
Jake,

I'm glad that this tank and reel was secured by someone in the family. LOL.

The JOBO lid requires a rubber stopper that can seal the 1 1/16 inch opening.

You might want to secure a light tight non-daylight tank like Dan's so you can dip the reel into the JOBO to avoid long pour times. To cover a 15 foot 70mm reel it is about 2 liters, so the pour times are mucho long.

The quick dip into developer I think is important, but then stop and fix in a daylight tank is pure convenience.

Cal
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Its highly likely ill mix the dev - pour it into the tank, load the film onto the reels and then dip the reel in. Im just going off the same principle i read in "the negative" for multiple reel tanks which has worked for me.

Of course any input would be appreciated, Im very excited for this tank to arrive. However I have had to explain to my girlfriend how i spent that much money on a piece of plastic - she wasnt too impressed! Some people!
 
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