a 50mm to compliment my cron 35 IV?

[Ghiom]

I am living happy days with a beater MP and a summicron 35 IV since a little while now... and I am now looking for a 50 mm lens that would the closest in term of rendition to my 35...

(willing to focus on negs treatment more than having a couple of 50s for various rendition types, I would like to find the most homogenous couple for 35/50)...

headache-headache... so many choices (old summi, zeiss planar & sonnar, heliar, elmar...) I don't know which direction to take nor what to choose...

I do mostly b&w but also color (mostly chrome) slides...

Any advice or users' contribution would be highly welcome!
Thanks

 

[kipkeston]

I imagine the current version summicron (probably from the 80s) would be the closest.

 

[Rico]

Oddly enough, I find the classic Elmar 50/2.8 a close match rendition-wise, except the Elmar has better bokeh (!)

 

[maddoc]

... DR Summicron. Very good for BW (not to much contrast but renders fine details) and not to expensive. Unfortunately it is a heavy lens ....

 

[Ghiom]

Thanks for for comments, but as you speak about "classic" elmar, you mean the 2.8 version from the 60s or the new one?

Thanks

 

[ClaremontPhoto]

Crikey, how would one lens compliment another?

Perhaps "I do like that black and slightly brassed look, and they tell me you have good bokeh"?

 

[Al Kaplan]

Leitz used to make unannounced changes in coatings, at least according to the Leica rep that I spoke with back in the seventies. I'd try to find a 50 from about the same vintage as your 35.

In most situations I find the 35 and 50 focal lengths pretty much interchangeable with one another. They're just too close. My 50 just about never sees any use! Have you considered something like the 90 Elmarit? The original "long" Elmarit with the removeable head?

 

[Andrew Sowerby]

Crikey, how would one lens compliment another?

Perhaps "I do like that black and slightly brassed look, and they tell me you have good bokeh"?

Don't be obtuse. It's perfectly clear what the OP means.

 

[35mmdelux]

50mm hexanon would be a nice complement to match the IV boke.

 

[januaryman]

Don't be obtuse. It's perfectly clear what the OP means.

I think he was going for the "light-hearted humor" approach. No need to over react. I chuckled and moved on.

 

[kevin m]

It's going to be tough to find a 50mm lens to match every facet of the version IV 35mm Summicron.

The first part, finding a 50 with mediocre performance wide open, won't be too difficult; a collapsible Summicron with the ubiquitous "cleaning marks," or a Jupiter-8 with an out-of-whack focus cam should do the trick. The second part, paying $1,200 or more for $300 worth of performance, will be tough. Even the most devilish of ebay sellers doesn't have the huevos to post a four digit "buy-it-now" price for those lenses. And, lastly, you'll have to have a catch-phrase that appeals to the herd mentality of the internet age. "King of Bokeh" has a big head start, but lacks pizzaz, so there's room for competition. Alliteration always helps, though. I'm going to start calling my pre-aspherical Summilux 35 the "Queen of Coma" in every relevant internet post I can in hopes of de-throning the 'King.' 😀

 

[kevin m]

Every Summicron 35 v4 pre-asph needs a Summilux 50 pre-asph to go with it. My two favorite lenses.

Whoa, those black chrome MP's are beauties! 🙂

 

[FPjohn]

They are beautiful - my M3 has "character" as it sheds vulcanite.

yours
FPJ

 

[Al Kaplan]

They'll never look as cool as those two black paint M2's that were pictured here a day or two ago.

 

[kevin m]

They'll never look as cool as those two black paint M2's that were pictured here a day or two ago.

Pshaw! Shiny black paint - beautiful as it may be - has to be the dumbest idea for a camera finish ever. Black chrome has utility and stealth out the wazoo. 😀

 

[Andrew Sowerby]

I think he was going for the "light-hearted humor" approach. No need to over react. I chuckled and moved on.

I just re-read Jon's comment and it's clearly a joke. Sorry, Jon.

 

[dreamsandart]

A couple Summicrons are always nice to have, at f2 usually fast enough and compact. Go for a black 3rd version '69', a good match in contrast with the 50 being sharper in the close range and opened up.

 

[ferider]

How about the 75/1.4 ? Great combo ....

 

[thomasw_]

How about the 75/1.4 ? Great combo ....

Roland knows. The 35/75 combination makes for a killer kit. I use my summicron 35 and summilux 75 in symphony; two great lenses with unique and pleasing dof effects.

 

[Rayt]

What are those two bodies above? They are MP's I can see but they have vulcanite and a flat grey finish?

I would say the tabbed Canadian 50mm Summicron from the mid 80's closely match the 35mm 7-element's color, tone and contrast pretty well. I have a silver 35mm Summicron 7-elements that I use with a late silver tabbed 50mm Summicron. They do compliment each other in many ways.