you look so open-minded for leica users! I once asked on a leica forum an objectiv vision on a IIIf, explaining that I wanted to choose between different cameras (a F3, a Rolleiflex and a
IIIf.. I know they're very different cameras but i'm quite flexible and the way I shoot depends on the camera, not the contrary) and they answered had to buy a R6. "why" i said "because there's nothing as good as Leica".
Well your 4am shows it's not completely true! of course a creamy III is just heaven on earth but winding a Kiev is (nearly) as good, and I'm really having fun with mine! If you mount a nice old lens on it, you can get amazing vintage-looking pictures... nearly lith-looking!