david.elliott
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Haha, do whatever works best for you Juan. It sounds like with your setup you have every situation covered.
It would be too much gear for me to carry, but we're all unique in the gear we take with us.
It would be too much gear for me to carry, but we're all unique in the gear we take with us.
charjohncarter
Veteran
Thanks, charjohncarter... I carry six near me, but have visible and use just one or two at a time... I'm having more fun than ever...
Cheers,
Juan
I have to say sometimes I have six cameras loaded. And I have used the same sunshine/shade, overcast method you use. It works well, my problem was never finishing the shade camera, as like you I live in a sunny climate. Still, it is a method for sneaking a little zone system into roll film cameras. When I'm on vacation I change the ISO setting on my camera to get better exposures as another workaround.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
So very interesting comment!
Exactly the same happens to me when I load ISO400 for shades... Yet I have a roll loaded from two or three moths ago! With that ISO I must meter and focus in a sometimes slower way...
And I have shot in this period of time maybe ten rolls of 3200 for shades too: prefocused and with easier, huge depth of field, it goes faster... Both on my manual RF's and on my compact AE AF OLY...
Thanks, charjohncarter! I see you've been there too...
Cheers,
Juan
Exactly the same happens to me when I load ISO400 for shades... Yet I have a roll loaded from two or three moths ago! With that ISO I must meter and focus in a sometimes slower way...
And I have shot in this period of time maybe ten rolls of 3200 for shades too: prefocused and with easier, huge depth of field, it goes faster... Both on my manual RF's and on my compact AE AF OLY...
Thanks, charjohncarter! I see you've been there too...
Cheers,
Juan
Tim Gray
Well-known
Does sound like a lot of cameras to carry. I rarely have ever shot with even two at the same time. Though it is nice to have two in general in case you are halfway through a roll of slow/high speed/color/slide/etc. film and want the opposite.
I think some of my take on this comes down to me not really thinking too much about shallow DOF, etc. I do consciously think about large DOF when I shoot ISO 400 and a wide lens for prefocussed shots, but other than that, I don't worry about ND filters, etc. If I'm going out with good light, I might load a roll of ISO 100 or something, but all I have is ISO 400 or 3200 in the camera, I make due with it.
I think some of my take on this comes down to me not really thinking too much about shallow DOF, etc. I do consciously think about large DOF when I shoot ISO 400 and a wide lens for prefocussed shots, but other than that, I don't worry about ND filters, etc. If I'm going out with good light, I might load a roll of ISO 100 or something, but all I have is ISO 400 or 3200 in the camera, I make due with it.
NickTrop
Veteran
I use a similar method - but with socks, not cameras.
user237428934
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Hey, if he can control 6 cameras at once more power to him. I tried just two and couldn't handle it. I still think it is a good way but now I'm not as fine tuned as I used to be. Mas poder a ti, Juan.
If he could handle 6 cameras his name would probably be paul the octopus
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Film: 100 slide, 400 mono
Today: 400 mono + digi
Always 2 cameras, to allow for breakdowns and (more importantly) an easy way to carry 2 lenses (35+75).
I tried 2x mono bodies for a while but decided it was more trouble than it was worth.
Cheers,
R.
Today: 400 mono + digi
Always 2 cameras, to allow for breakdowns and (more importantly) an easy way to carry 2 lenses (35+75).
I tried 2x mono bodies for a while but decided it was more trouble than it was worth.
Cheers,
R.
I hand it to anyone who can concentrate on 6 cameras at a time on the street... even if 4 are tucked away.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Does sound like a lot of cameras to carry. I rarely have ever shot with even two at the same time. Though it is nice to have two in general in case you are halfway through a roll of slow/high speed/color/slide/etc. film and want the opposite.
I think some of my take on this comes down to me not really thinking too much about shallow DOF, etc. I do consciously think about large DOF when I shoot ISO 400 and a wide lens for prefocussed shots, but other than that, I don't worry about ND filters, etc. If I'm going out with good light, I might load a roll of ISO 100 or something, but all I have is ISO 400 or 3200 in the camera, I make due with it.
Hi Tim,
How can you do it under the sun with 3200? You can't use selective focus if a scene requires it for better visual narrative...
For several reasons like that, I prefer when I'm under direct sun, to have two bodies: one with fast film for great depth of field, and another one with slower film and ND filter for 1.4. There's no way to do it with one film/camera/lens... In your case you're saying you do "the shot you can", and in my case I say I do "the shot I want". We may disgree, but looks like in your case your film and gear decide the look of your image, and in my case they don't: I do.
Cheers,
Juan
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
I hand it to anyone who can concentrate on 6 cameras at a time on the street... even if 4 are tucked away.
That makes no sense. Anyway the shots are done...
Cheers,
Juan
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
If he could handle 6 cameras his name would probably be paul the octopus![]()
I can handle two of them as fast as you couldn't believe... You can too...
Cheers,
Juan
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Haha, do whatever works best for you Juan. It sounds like with your setup you have every situation covered.
It would be too much gear for me to carry, but we're all unique in the gear we take with us.
I carried A LOT MORE when I used to walk around with my Hasselblad and a DSLR years ago... But then I wasn't ready for real fast shooting...
Cheers,
Juan
charjohncarter
Veteran
I carried A LOT MORE when I used to walk around with my Hasselblad and a DSLR years ago... But then I wasn't ready for real fast shooting...
Cheers,
Juan
I don't see what is wrong with carrying many cameras. Last week I had 5 with me: Agfa Isolette II, Ricoh DiacordR, Polaroid Automatic 100, Balda Hapo 66e, Minolta D4 (super 8 movie). They all do something special that I want. Possibly, I'm not ready for fast shooting. Especially, when most don't have meters.
Juan, if I see you in Barcelona in November maybe you will give some tips on your 2-3 camera method.
Carter
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
I don't see what is wrong with carrying many cameras. Last week I had 5 with me: Agfa Isolette II, Ricoh DiacordR, Polaroid Automatic 100, Balda Hapo 66e, Minolta D4 (super 8 movie). They all do something special that I want. Possibly, I'm not ready for fast shooting. Especially, when most don't have meters.
Juan, if I see you in Barcelona in November maybe you will give some tips on your 2-3 camera method.
Carter
Hi,
For sure it will be my pleasure if you come to Barcelona...
See you then!
Cheers,
Juan
charjohncarter
Veteran
Hi,
For sure it will be my pleasure if you come to Barcelona...
See you then!
Cheers,
Juan
Great, I'll let you know what days I'll be there.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
OK!
Cheers,
Juan
Cheers,
Juan
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Why not. I do all the time. Shoot 100ASA. Use the ND to shoot wide open. Take it off to shoot stopped down. Unless the camera doesn't have shutter speeds higher than 2000. Then I could understand.
There are situations EVERYDAY (most of the real interesting ones, by the way...) that include people and don't give us such a long time as to take filters on and off and set another aperture before setting speed and focusing...
With two bodies ready for drastically different apertures (1.4 and 11) I shoot both of them preset at 1/500, and as I said in a previous post, I can compose the same scene in both versions, or at least in one of them for sure: the one I prefer... All I have to do is raise the camera and shoot. I mean doing both versions in 5 seconds... Putting a filter on and off, and changing aperture, and setting speed, and then focusing, is something that made me lose many shots long time ago... It's possible for landscapes and such things, but street shooting is precisely about being ready...
Cheers,
Juan
Bob Michaels
nobody special
Juan: thanks for starting a thread that results in responses that point out there is no "right way" or "wrong way", just whatever works for each of us as individual photographers.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Hi Bob: Only time speaks about our photographs and ways...
Glad you've enjoyed the thread. So, keep coming back and adding to it...
Cheers,
Juan
Glad you've enjoyed the thread. So, keep coming back and adding to it...
Cheers,
Juan
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
Juan, interesting evolution of your ISO preference.
I am still experimenting with film and ISOs and the "pushing" that goes with it.
I tried to look for a all-purpose film, 100 - 1600 and Tri-x seem to be able to handle it though I have not handled anything less than 400 on it. Plus-X looks interesting as it is "pushable" to 400-500 iso. I am currently on Acros 100 (legacy pro 100) and while I like the rendition, I realise it doesn't push well)
However, I think I will end up with both plus X and Tri-x because it sort of covers everything.
On a related note on cameras, a f1.5 50mm paired with a 1600 iso film + ND filter is a lethal combination, no ?
I am still experimenting with film and ISOs and the "pushing" that goes with it.
I tried to look for a all-purpose film, 100 - 1600 and Tri-x seem to be able to handle it though I have not handled anything less than 400 on it. Plus-X looks interesting as it is "pushable" to 400-500 iso. I am currently on Acros 100 (legacy pro 100) and while I like the rendition, I realise it doesn't push well)
However, I think I will end up with both plus X and Tri-x because it sort of covers everything.
On a related note on cameras, a f1.5 50mm paired with a 1600 iso film + ND filter is a lethal combination, no ?
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