Adapter Ring & Lens Cap!?

[shashinka-ichiban]

Any thoguht on this. Will one have to insert and remove the adapter ruins needed for the lens hood or any filters between times of using the lens cap? It would be a pain in the ass to take off the lens cap, then have to mount the filter adapter everytime I decide to use a filter or lens hood, only to have to remove it in order to put the lens cap back on. I can not make any sort of determination from what I can see in the pictures.

 

[Catto]

Pretty sure you're correct from my brief time with it. Definitely can't use the cap with the hood, and I'm pretty sure you can't use the case if you've got the filter adaptor on either.

In fact, thinking about it, I'm almost certain you're right; the lens cap is a friction fit with felt on the inside, and the adaptor has an external bayonet mount for the lens hood. So the odds of the cap going - and staying - on, over top of the bayonet mount, are very slim indeed...
R

 

[Catto]

Incidentally, the other thing I just remembered is that the 'vented' hood - presumably to see through with the optical viewfinder - doesn't seem to align in any way that let's you actually see through the vents.

That is, whichever way I mounted it (and I did once get it so that the Fujifilm logo was pointed upwards, which seemed logical), in line with my view from the OVF was always one of the bits of plastic, not a vent.

But - Pre-Production Sample, so...who knows!
R

 

[shashinka-ichiban]

Sounds a bit of a put off that in order to use filters or the hood, one would have to constantly mount and remount. And I assume then it would be safe to say one could not mount a filter on to the lens mount adapter and use a hood at the same time. It becomes of these, you either get to use the lens cap, the lens hood or the filter, but none in any combination. Then on top of that the lens hood will obstruct the OVF field of vision as well.

To me, that's a bit of a put off. I like the filter to protect the glass from impact (it's save me many times before) the shade helps me keep stray fingers from the lens. And well, the cap I only use to keep dust off the lens when it is sitting in storage. Dust seems to get in to everything in the house.

 

[Catto]

Pretty sure you can combine a (possibly only one) filter and the hood, so I suspect the best solution would be to do that & forget the lens cap exists. Just leave the hood & filter in place permanently, and clean the filter from time to time...
R

 

[andrew00]

Hopefully we'll get a chinese auto lens cap coming out.

 

[Arjay]

I guess you could use any run-of-the-mill 49mm clip-on cap with the adapter. The only question is whether you could still use the camera case together w/ adapter/filter/cap (not the original cap).

It would be a definite design mistake if you couldn't.

 

[Catto]

Pretty sure the case doesn't work with the adapter ring, much less a filter, much less a cap on a filter on the adapter ring! But time will tell...just make sure you've got the adapter ring with you when you're deciding whether to buy the case!
R

 

[cpharris]

No, the top half of the case won't fit with the filter adapter attached.

I was contemplating keeping the adapter ring + filter + (maybe) a clip-on lens cap attached at all times, but looks like it will add a good length to the lens; defeating, somewhat, the small nature of the camera.

So will probably just use the supplied lens cap and be careful not to poke the lens with my fingers.

 

[cpharris]

I wonder if a 49mm filter can be screwed backwards, directly on to the lens (male) thread, without the need for an adapter.

Not sure if the focus movement would case a collision with the filter - it seems to move quite a bit in the 'fuji guys' video. That wouldn't be so good.

 

[Catto]

I wonder if a 49mm filter can be screwed backwards, directly on to the lens (male) thread, without the need for an adapter.

Not sure if the focus movement would case a collision with the filter - it seems to move quite a bit in the 'fuji guys' video. That wouldn't be so good.

That's an interesting thought - so effectively, the Fuji adapter would simply be a spacer ring to keep the filter far enough out that the focus movement wouldn't hit it...I'd say that sounds quite probable, actually. In which case, the idea of reverse-mounting a filter straight on wouldn't work, as you say.
R

 

[shashinka-ichiban]

That's an interesting thought - so effectively, the Fuji adapter would simply be a spacer ring to keep the filter far enough out that the focus movement wouldn't hit it...I'd say that sounds quite probable, actually. In which case, the idea of reverse-mounting a filter straight on wouldn't work, as you say.
R

but that does give a good reasoning as to why the lens wasn't threaded to begin with and why the ring is needed in the first place.

 

[cpharris]

I used to keep a good quality protective filter on my DSLR lens (no hood), so that I didn't have to worry about the front element getting grubby with spray and dirt when travelling around. Obviously filters can only degrade quality, but I'm hoping the B+W / Hoya Pro ones weren't too bad.

With the X100, especially since the lens is integrated, I'm considering keeping the adapter ring and a B+W 007 Clear filter in place pretty much all the time.

the other option is for me to go with a 'naked' lens and hope cleaning it won't damage the surface.

It's a timely debate, but anyone care to chime in with their opinion?

 

[DavidX]

Gosh - I've preorderd the works; camera, adapter+hood, leather case. Was surely hoping that the adapter and a filter (without lens cap) would fit inside the leather case.
I assumed that if the leather case had room for the lens cap then the adapter and a filter (for protection) would be no prob.
I was even looking for silver 49mm UV filters so they would match. (Cokin do one by the way)

 

[hunz]

whats the point of the adapter ring? -- can't one just screw a filter onto the lens? (after the outer ring is unscrewed off?)

 

[Catto]

whats the point of the adapter ring? -- can't one just screw a filter onto the lens? (after the outer ring is unscrewed off?)

Umm...see above?

The adapter ring is an adapter (in the shape of a ring) that lets you put filters on the lens, and provides a bayonet mount for the lens hood.

If you could put filters straight on, well, there wouldn't be the need for an adapter ring; which there is, and they're selling it.
R?

 

[hunz]

exactly, why didn't they design it so people can just screw a filter directly onto the lens? - like Leica lenses

-- ok, let me rephrase this. can people screw a UV filter for example onto the lens WITHOUT the need for the adaptor ring?

 

[tom in mpls]

-- ok, let me rephrase this. can people screw a UV filter for example onto the lens WITHOUT the need for the adaptor ring?

Sadly, no.

 

[hunz]

one would have thought its possible? - there's a screw thread, so wouldn't it just be a matter of finding a filter which will screw on? 😕

 

[Catto]

Unless, as discussed above...

...the Fuji adapter would simply be a spacer ring to keep the filter far enough out that the focus movement wouldn't hit it...I'd say that sounds quite probable, actually. In which case, the idea of reverse-mounting a filter straight on wouldn't work, as you say.

So basically, at this stage, nobody (including people like myself who have held and used the camera, added and removed the adapter ring and lens hood, tried the lens cap & case with it, etc) can actually answer the question definitively. The best theory I have is the one I posted above.

But until the cameras exist, we don't know - except that there is an adapter ring, which would suggest there is a reason it's not possible. We don't know what that will turn out to be.
R...