Adobe taking the p**s
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Al Patterson
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I do understand why people who currently own the CSx software might be hacked off. it is just that after years in the software industry I see see how SAAS and more frequent updates wit a subscription service model could actually be an improvement over waiting for the next update under the current software as a product model. Especially if you update cameras frequently. The issue is at what monthly price do you balk at subscribing. Personally, I don't want to go over $10 a month for anything...
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Well most anything InDesign can do Word can do right? I mean there's all those templates. Oh, Word is rented now too. Wow, this is really starting to suck.
bensyverson
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Sparrow
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mani
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The problem for some of us - aside from the principle of owning* rather than renting the software we use - is the fact that the new system makes it much harder for people whose income varies over time. To illustrate with my case, I normally earn a pretty good income but with my latest kid I decided to take a much longer paternity leave - and by the end of the ten months my cash was running pretty low.
With the standard business model, I'd just be able to wait before upgrading, or just skip versions as others have said. With CC I'd need to just grit my teeth and keep paying, or risk losing access to the files which have proprietary alterations.
That last point is the key for me: SaaS - software as a service - shouldn't lock my own assets into a proprietary format. SaaS is usually there to aid businesses and individuals to maximize some particular utility in their own assets. But hardly any of them lock those customer-owned assets into a form that can't be retrieved if the business or individual leaves the system. The customer loses the service but not their own assets. That's what's wrong with this move by Adobe. Once you're in the system and you've made changes to your images that other psd interpreters can't translate, then you're locked in forever - whatever the future price that Adobe decides to charge you.
*I know that technically we only own a licence to use the software, rather than the software itself, but we all know what I mean here.
With the standard business model, I'd just be able to wait before upgrading, or just skip versions as others have said. With CC I'd need to just grit my teeth and keep paying, or risk losing access to the files which have proprietary alterations.
That last point is the key for me: SaaS - software as a service - shouldn't lock my own assets into a proprietary format. SaaS is usually there to aid businesses and individuals to maximize some particular utility in their own assets. But hardly any of them lock those customer-owned assets into a form that can't be retrieved if the business or individual leaves the system. The customer loses the service but not their own assets. That's what's wrong with this move by Adobe. Once you're in the system and you've made changes to your images that other psd interpreters can't translate, then you're locked in forever - whatever the future price that Adobe decides to charge you.
*I know that technically we only own a licence to use the software, rather than the software itself, but we all know what I mean here.
MaxElmar
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Exactly! Same with Lightroom. I use my own storage schema - I don't need a database to find my files. I feel pretty secure that I can keep control of the original content. But the work I do in post to the files is locked up in the Lightroom database. If LR were to go subscription I would drop it in a flash for this very reason. (Pun not intended.)
DNG
Film Friendly
I just had to highlight this.... THIS IS A BIG DEAL!!!!!...... And Wrong in their business model!!!!!
Murchu
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Apparently, LR due to remain outside the cloud for the "foreseeable future"; http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/15/adobe-lightroom-5-beta-google-hangout
Sparrow
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bensyverson
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bensyverson
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bensyverson
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Ranchu
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That's a red herring, right? Explain how you can open files you've edited with the CC thing if you stop paying Adobe. You can't because you can't. Seems like a big change to me, Ben. It's not 'nothing'.
jarski
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recon prices for old but legit Photoshop copies will remain firm from now on, especially newer ones (4-6). even if they cannot open newer camera raw's after a while (because ACR gets outdated), Lightroom can and wont be yet as part of new charging model.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I'm a bit peeved because I don't use photoshop for post processing but I always liked printing from it ... and lost the old version on my PC when it had a melt down recently!
I think I may have been prepared to part with the readies for free standing software but the cloud is not an option for me.
I think I may have been prepared to part with the readies for free standing software but the cloud is not an option for me.
jarski
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jtm6
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And they are holding your freshly shaven face hostage because the whiskers will return unless you keep paying Gillette! :angel:
(On a side note, I ditched the $1 per shave whisker rippers and went back to the old safety blades. I'm about 2.5 years into my 10 year stash of blades I bought for $16. Plus, my worst shave now is better than the best shave I had before. I think it is time to fire up the old 840AV. 😉 )
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