And they wonder why Americans are overweight?

gb hill said:
The best thing one can eat after a bout with the stomach virius is a small portion of red meat. The iron goes to the blood and builds your energy like you wouldn't believe. After loosing all that bodily fluid and feeling so weak no vegtable or vitamin will build your strength like red meat will. Besides the human body needs meat. When you get old you'll wish you had eaten meat. Your bones may suffer from not eating meat. The problem is not eating meat, it's eating too much meat. Also how the meat is prepared. Ever notice how boney people are that don't eat meat. Thats not healthy at all.
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Actually, people who don't eat any meat TEND to overeat carbohydrates and they are usually far from boney.


Physician friends of mine who used an extreme version of the Atkin's diet at one time, used the example of "have you ever seen a fat lion?" :eek:

The problem was that they gained the weight back quickly after stopping their high fat, all meat diet because they just couldn't keep it up very long.
 
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Unfortunately etrigan63......senses of humor these days come with "conditions".

Look everyone it's really very simple......first learn to laugh at yourself. When you master that, then you can laugh at others.

It's healthy & it's what society needs to survive. Let's all grow up together everyone.
 
Seriously, it reminded me of a poster my sister had as a kid. Diet Coke can next to a honkin' big slice of devil's food cake. Just one of those juxtapositions that is the basis of irony. Stacks of pizza with rows of diet soda as if one offsets the other. Not wishing to plagarize the poster totally, I came up with a different tagline. I was attempting to show irony, not foment social discord over generally poor eating decisions. Maybe I should have explained myself more, but that usually ruins a joke.
 
Thardy said:
Actually, people who don't eat any meat TEND to overeat carbohydrates and they are usually far from boney.


Physician friends of mine who used an extreme version of the Atkin's diet at one time, used the example of "have you ever seen a fat lion?" :eek:

The problem was that they gained the weight back quickly after stopping their high fat, all meat diet because they just couldn't keep it up very long.
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Carbohydrates are even worse. Turns to sugar during digestion. Thats why diabetics are not susposed to eat foods like potatoes and white or even some wheat breads.
 
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Just get some help eating it....:p (they sell guaranteed 100% cholesterol sausages there)

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Uh oh ... I'm sensing a carnivore verses vegetarian trend in this thread! :eek:

Bring it on! :D
 
There probably is more than one way to not gaining weight. Discarding meat alone wouldn't do it though; I've seen enough people on "no meat" diet who however were readily indulging to gracious amounts of doughnuts, berliners and pie. It almost seemed like a rationalization effort, "look, I'm on diet but still not losing weight, that's just the way I am".

If you want to make a hamburger menu healthier, rather throw out the bread, coke and fries part.
 
The only way to not gain weight is to not consume more calories than you use up. There is no other equation.

Regards
Ernst
 
varjag said:
There probably is more than one way to not gaining weight. Discarding meat alone wouldn't do it though; I've seen enough people on "no meat" diet who however were readily indulging to gracious amounts of doughnuts, berliners and pie. It almost seemed like a rationalization effort, "look, I'm on diet but still not losing weight, that's just the way I am".

If you want to make a hamburger menu healthier, rather throw out the bread, coke and fries part.
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That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Thank you.
 
That's a great photo, because it has provoked such lively discussion.
I'm surprised the mods haven't closed the thread! ;)

Chris
 
There is no need to close the thread. Jenni made some excellent points. Were not arguing. BTW I am hypoglycemic and it runs in my family. I control it with my diet. I have lost 45 pounds and I do love vegtables and stay away from white bread and only eat stone ground wheat bread because of it's slow digestion rate. I try to eat other foods that digest slowly. I eat lots of fruit. My problem is not high blood sugar, mine is the opposite, my sugar suddenly drops and I get terrabily weak and shakey and have to eat something suggery to build my level back up. So I value her input or anyone elses who can make life better for me. The trouble is there are so many gimmic diets and one doctor will tell you something different from another dr. and it really can get crazy. Jenni seems to have a good knowlege of this topic so I'm certainly willing to listen. Thats what this forum is all about learning. Maybe if more people would quit being so stubborn and learn something then maybe there wouldn't be so many arguments. BTW I thought the picture was funny myself. I love humor around here, but some of you take everything too serious.
 
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BTW Jenni the last time I had the virus I was craving something solid and there was a hamburger patty that my wife had fixed and I was still so drained and when I ate that meat I could feel energy going into my body and it helped me alot. I am not a fan of broccali, but I do love spinish and I think that is rich in iron also. I respect you not wanting to kill animals, and I will say again that I do thank you for your input.
 
Hi all...

I'm taking this with good humour :rolleyes: I'm an American in Israel, I'm over 60 and I'm overweight... but not grossly so. For me, periods when I've been a "slim Jim" are associated with a chemical imbalance and psychological instability. This has been reversed or stabilized, and I've learned to accept myself, as I am.

And, I'm consulting with a Nutritionist/coach... because losing 15-20 lbs will be good for the health of my legs and all the rest of me. So, thanks for listening.

Mike ;-)
 
Thank you.

On a side note, I am an acquired Type 1 diabetic. Yes, that can happen, but it is very rare. In my case I survived necrotizing pancreatitis (which only has a 2% survival rate) and I lost half of my pancreas in the process. Diabetes is the deal I made with God in order to stay alive.

Before anyone asks, the pizza I was getting was for my two kids and a few of their friends. If I order pizza for myself, I order it from a local pizzeria (Nonna Maria) that offers extremely fresh ingredients and (best of all) stone-ground whole wheat crust. I usually get a ham (sorry Jenni), tomato and gorgonzola pizza. My canine teeth are far too pronounced (a genetic marker for my carnivorous ancestors).
 
etrigan63 said:
Thank you.

On a side note, I am an acquired Type 1 diabetic. Yes, that can happen, but it is very rare. In my case I survived necrotizing pancreatitis (which only has a 2% survival rate) and I lost half of my pancreas in the process. Diabetes is the deal I made with God in order to stay alive.

Before anyone asks, the pizza I was getting was for my two kids and a few of their friends. If I order pizza for myself, I order it from a local pizzeria (Nonna Maria) that offers extremely fresh ingredients and (best of all) stone-ground whole wheat crust. I usually get a ham (sorry Jenni), tomato and gorgonzola pizza. My canine teeth are far too pronounced (a genetic marker for my carnivorous ancestors).
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Getting away from dietry stuff and back to the topic for a minute. The bottom line is ... the photograph is your property and whatever title you chose for it is up to you and anyone who takes offence at the title and it's implications is not allowing you your rights to express yourself as a photographer and artist! :)
 
Thanks Keith. Anybody ever tell you that you are a gentleman and a scholar? BTW, is it me or does your avatar look like Buddy Ebsen with a rangefinder?
 
etrigan63 said:
Thanks Keith. Anybody ever tell you that you are a gentleman and a scholar? BTW, is it me or does your avatar look like Buddy Ebsen with a rangefinder?
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Just call me 'Jed' ... I'm off to check the 'ceement pond!'

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You know Jed Clampett is listed in the "Forbes Fictional 15", a list of the 15 richest imaginary figures in history. He is #5 after Richie Rich and Scrooge McDuck. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks is currently #1.
 
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