XFer
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Just one more clarification, the scanner will not scan sub atomic particles nor double as an electron microscope.![]()
Hey, that's too bad!!
I do that with my Epson 1200!!
goffer
Well-known
Cannot wait for this...
bwcolor
Veteran
" 8-element glass lens with 5,300 dpi optical resolution, high-sensitive color CCD with 10,600 dpi resolution"
and
"Up to 10,600 dpi input and 5,300 dpi output for film"
What is this input output stuff? What is the input DPI? It looks like the raw sensor dpi, so why is the output only 5,300 dpi? Is it that the stepping motor is not up to the task that 10,600 dpi presents. Why list the sensor resolution if it has nothing to do with output? Perhaps I make ten million a year, but if the government takes all but ten thousand.. what is it to me? Granted, if this is a true resolution, it beats my 4000dpi 9000ED, so not bad, but I would like to understand what is being said here.
The film holders look more substantial than my Nikon film holders.
and
"Up to 10,600 dpi input and 5,300 dpi output for film"
What is this input output stuff? What is the input DPI? It looks like the raw sensor dpi, so why is the output only 5,300 dpi? Is it that the stepping motor is not up to the task that 10,600 dpi presents. Why list the sensor resolution if it has nothing to do with output? Perhaps I make ten million a year, but if the government takes all but ten thousand.. what is it to me? Granted, if this is a true resolution, it beats my 4000dpi 9000ED, so not bad, but I would like to understand what is being said here.
The film holders look more substantial than my Nikon film holders.
dogbunny
Registered Boozer
It looks cool. I hope it is all it is cracked up to be, then I will have an option when my 8000ED goes belly up.
hanskerensky
Well-known
In the Features tab of that article they explain that the optical resolution is 5300 dpi. So that's what they probably mean by "real" output resolution.
Nevertheless impressive !
Nevertheless impressive !
Bob Parsons
Established
I'm interested to know if the output resolution figures are reduced for larger formats as is the case for the Flextight X5 which has 6900 ppi for 35mm portrait, 6150 ppi 35mm landscape and 3200 ppi for medium format. Maybe the Plustek CCD has "excess" resolution and the final result is determined by the optics.
Bob.
Bob.
Foto-factotum
Established
I have just seen the "OpticFilm 120" on the Products section of the Plustek USA website! I will contact the South African agents first thing in the morning and will report back on availability and price.
Regards Eugene (the other one)
Regards Eugene (the other one)
XFer
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Mark:
is the 10600 max input resolution figure due to
a) staggered-array sensor arrangement (2 x 3-line 5300 DPI CCD, offset by 1/2 pixel)
or
b) half-step step-motor (5300 DPI X-resolution x 10600 DPI Y-resolution)
?
Thanks
is the 10600 max input resolution figure due to
a) staggered-array sensor arrangement (2 x 3-line 5300 DPI CCD, offset by 1/2 pixel)
or
b) half-step step-motor (5300 DPI X-resolution x 10600 DPI Y-resolution)
?
Thanks
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Here's fingers crossed to availability in the EU!
And here's more fingers crossed to a price I can afford without selling off gear... I'm just about done consolidating the stuff I wanna keep and use, and sold off the rest... ouch.
And here's more fingers crossed to a price I can afford without selling off gear... I'm just about done consolidating the stuff I wanna keep and use, and sold off the rest... ouch.
bwcolor
Veteran
In the Features tab of that article they explain that the optical resolution is 5300 dpi. So that's what they probably mean by "real" output resolution.
Nevertheless impressive !
Yes, this is understood, but what value, other than misleading marketing hype, is stating the "input" resolution, which hasn't any useful value? I very much dislike companies that try to mislead consumers. Scanner and printer manufacturers are at the top of my list of companies that are dishonest in their representations. Sorry, but that is the way that I see this, unless there is some better explanation.
k__43
Registered Film User
Here's fingers crossed to availability in the EU!
And here's more fingers crossed to a price I can afford without selling off gear... I'm just about done consolidating the stuff I wanna keep and use, and sold off the rest... ouch.
second that .. although I plan to sell my leica 28mm for it
Matus
Well-known
Based on the link above the scanner takes two 35mm film strips at a time - that is great actually - will speed up the scanning for the 'small format guys' 
Harry Lime
Practitioner
Very nice!
Is there a glass neg carrier?
thx
Is there a glass neg carrier?
thx
literiter
Well-known
I wonder if the cost of used Nikon CS9000 scanners will become a little more realistic now?
hanskerensky
Well-known
Maybe somebody in the area of Taipei can try it hands on at the Computex fair there next week (June 5-9).
You can download a presskit here : http://plustek.com/computex-2012.html
And, yes, good competition means that the prices will go down.
You can download a presskit here : http://plustek.com/computex-2012.html
And, yes, good competition means that the prices will go down.
rodt16s
Well-known
As I only shoot B&W, I'm holding out for the M120M version , more costly but better..
Actually a lack of 120 scanning ability has meant my MF has become shelf bound,
As I don't want or like the flat bed type, this hopefully will it's saviour.
Actually a lack of 120 scanning ability has meant my MF has become shelf bound,
As I don't want or like the flat bed type, this hopefully will it's saviour.
mdruziak
Established
Mark:
is the 10600 max input resolution figure due to
a) staggered-array sensor arrangement (2 x 3-line 5300 DPI CCD, offset by 1/2 pixel)
or
b) half-step step-motor (5300 DPI X-resolution x 10600 DPI Y-resolution)
?
Thanks
XFer, EXCELLENT question. I'm not exactly sure of the sensor topology. We were trying to say that output resolution is the measured resolution using USAF 1951 test targets. Let me just say that based on the last test images I have, the average of the x and y resolution is above 5000 dpi. We will most likely be adjusting the specs on the website as we get closer to shipping approval.
I will give you guys another teaser regarding resolution. Yesterday I had a meeting with Lasersoft Imaging (Silverfast), they were pretty excited because the resolution was among the best they have seen in a film scanner. And these guys have seen them all. I understand that HDR images done with Silverfast are quite spectacular. I should have samples very soon.
mdruziak
Established
I have just seen the "OpticFilm 120" on the Products section of the Plustek USA website! I will contact the South African agents first thing in the morning and will report back on availability and price.
Regards Eugene (the other one)
They will not be able to answer your questions. The product hasn't made it to distribution yet.
mdruziak
Established
Yes, this is understood, but what value, other than misleading marketing hype, is stating the "input" resolution, which hasn't any useful value? I very much dislike companies that try to mislead consumers. Scanner and printer manufacturers are at the top of my list of companies that are dishonest in their representations. Sorry, but that is the way that I see this, unless there is some better explanation.
I understand what you are saying about misleading. As I stated in another post, we will most likely adjust the spec section of the website as we go forward.
XFer
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Hi Mark, thanks for the answer.
When you say:
do you mean that X and Y measured resolving power is not equal?
Something like (say) 4400x5800 (average = 5100)?
Thanks
When you say:
based on the last test images I have, the average of the x and y resolution is above 5000 dpi.
do you mean that X and Y measured resolving power is not equal?
Something like (say) 4400x5800 (average = 5100)?
Thanks
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