Are you going OM-D?

Are you going OM-D?

  • O yeah, here's my pre-order confirmation!

    Votes: 36 10.4%

  • You bet! just have to de-GAS a few gears to fund it

    Votes: 23 6.7%

  • Positively, but only when it hits street price level

    Votes: 65 18.8%

  • I don't know, I like it, but won't my APS-C buddies shun me?

    Votes: 50 14.5%

  • Heck no! I won't be caught dead with a dinky m4/3rd camera

    Votes: 110 31.9%

  • OMD? Are they coming out with a new album?

    Votes: 61 17.7%
  • Total voters
    345
  • Poll closed .
gavin if you really wanna get psyched, google 'robin wong olympus' to find his extensive blog testing a production model of ths thing. just fabulous results....
tony
 
rbelyell said:
gavin if you really wanna get psyched, google 'robin wong olympus' to find his extensive blog testing a production model of ths thing. just fabulous results....
tony
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Yes I've been following him, looks like iso3200 can be used easily, and highlight DR is hugely improved from the pens with the 12mp sensor. It seems everything that was wrong with the old m4/3 cams has been sorted.
 
gavinlg said:
Yes I've been following him, looks like iso3200 can be used easily, and highlight DR is hugely improved from the pens with the 12mp sensor. It seems everything that was wrong with the old m4/3 cams has been sorted.
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yup! my point of view has always been that if i could ever find a mirrorless cam that performed as well IQ wise throughout the iso range as my old 5d i would be a happy man, as what more could one want than a mini 'what was just three years ago the state of the art pro digicam'?

looks like its here, plus!
 
I haven't seen anything new since. Given that I haven't pro-ordered, I don't know what the ETA. But what was clear is that resellers will get them first, tentatively fullfilling pre-order as much as the can. Bigbox stores won't get it in Canada for a little while.
 
While I have no question about the camera, now I'm finding myself gravitating towards the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 as the lens to pair with the E-M5.

I have no desire to get any of Panasonic, but Olympus drops the ball (a small one, but still) in the kit lens department. Instead of using the E-M5 to launch their port of the amazing 12-60mm lens, they slow it down to f/3.5.

Leaving Panasonic again as the one providing a more preferable lens, at least on paper.

(No doubt some will pick on cross brand AF performance and other things like that. Me, I don't care about AF speed).

What do you all think? which lens would be your kit?
 
a point differentiating om-d from other 'pro' mirrorless is it is waterproof, as is the olly 12-50. the panny is not. secondly, not sure why one wants/needs to shoot 'fast' 24 in a zoom. typically zooms are not so fast anyway, or are very large to accomodate that feature. like many aspects of photography, i guess that aspect is subjective, but it doesnt bother me a bit. the ability to use the kit with an excellent range in any weather is the real draw here.
 
Pretty much every other system as a 28~70/2.8 weatherproof zoom (Pentax, Nikon, Canon), so it's surprising Oly hasn't come out with one. For photojournalists, it's a staple lens.

I'm fine with three primes, and will probably end up going that route. However I'm not surprised if the lack of a 2.8 zoom deters some folks.
 
The faster AF of the latest pens (I'm about to test it out first hand with an E-PL3) and the 16mp sensor with better high iso has convinced me to rejoin the m43 fold. I'll use the little newer kit zoom and the Summilux DG (maybe one of the superwide zooms) for a bit and see how that works. I too wish there was a 12-60/2.8 but there are already lots of choices in primes and zooms, the system is pretty robust.
 
In my tests, the X-Pro1 has amazing IQ. IMHO, equal or better than full-frame cameras I have owned, and used. No question the best APS sensor hands-down...in my opinion. The 35mm is great. Not meaning to rain on the OM-D thread, but these really are two different cameras in two different market segments.
 
well david i think there are some important things we dont yet know about the fuji. while i love my x100, i would not love, nor even like, a 'pro' level interchangeable lens cam without excellent manual focusing capability. that is really the 'great unknown', given that IQ results will be at least as good as the striking X100.

but i have to say, that at twice the price, a fair amount bulkier, not weatherproofed, and especially given what ive seen on the web from the olly at high iso/low light, i'm personally pretty much discounting the fuji.
 
digitalintrigue said:
these really are two different cameras in two different market segments.
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Exactly. The point of m43 is size, the 2x crop sensor will always be a compromise compared to a larger APS-C or full frame sensor. Though we may have reached the point where the performance of m43 is "good enough," which is why folks are comparing it to larger sensor cameras.
 
uinku said:
Pretty much every other system as a 28~70/2.8 weatherproof zoom (Pentax, Nikon, Canon), so it's surprising Oly hasn't come out with one. For photojournalists, it's a staple lens.

I'm fine with three primes, and will probably end up going that route. However I'm not surprised if the lack of a 2.8 zoom deters some folks.
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actually, while what you say is technically correct, it is not as relevent here because to my knowledge, there are no mirrorless systems that have any weatherproof cameras or lenses. the om-d is the first mirrorless weatherproof cam and it is coupled with the first mirrorless weatherproof lens. rather than 'lagging behind', olly is actually a groundbreaker on this.
 
"good enough", a term with positive and negative inferences. I'm tired of lugging the D700 and zooms around, and looking for an alternative. Both the OM-D and Fuji look like alternatives, and, as some have said, hard to decide. Yes, they're different (and I seem to "want it all"), and the Oly has size going for it, but is the IQ sufficient? I'd say the 6-10MP I used to get from my older Nikons was generally sufficient, and we have several generations of sensors since, so the m4/3 "should be good enough", as I rarely print over 11x17-ish.

The EVF is the biggest question mark- my experience has been years ago with the Minolta X-7 (or something like that), and now with the EVF for my LX-5- neither was/is really pleasant to shoot with. For those who may have experience with the Fuji, how is that viewfinder (OVF and EVF) compared with either a Leica M 6/7 series-type and/or something like a good Nikon/Canon?

Rick
 
Yeah, in the m4/3 area, they've been groundbreaking, but I'd like to think the OM-D system is something that journalists would consider as a compact alternative. And if that's the case, it'd be wise for Oly to come out with a proper zoom to attract that niche.

Re: EVF.. I shot for years through a C-8080 EVF and it was fine.. people are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is.
 
dfatty said:
Exactly. The point of m43 is size, the 2x crop sensor will always be a compromise compared to a larger APS-C or full frame sensor. Though we may have reached the point where the performance of m43 is "good enough," which is why folks are comparing it to larger sensor cameras.
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yes and no. compared to FF absolutely. but 2x m4/3 compared to 1.5x apsc are really aimed at exactly the same market segments: those that want to augment or replace FF with smaller, lighter gear.

heretofore it has been dogma that m4/3 sensor could not rival lowlight/high iso ability of apsc. from what i have seen on line, the om-d performs way better in this area than my FF 5d/zeiss lenses. if that turns out to be true, i pose the question how much better IQ does one really need?
 
rbelyell said:
yes and no. compared to FF absolutely. but 2x m4/3 compared to 1.5x apsc are really aimed at exactly the same market segments: those that want to augment or replace FF with smaller, lighter gear.

heretofore it has been dogma that m4/3 sensor could not rival lowlight/high iso ability of apsc. from what i have seen on line, the om-d performs way better in this area than my FF 5d/zeiss lenses. if that turns out to be true, i pose the question how much better IQ does one really need?
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the ep3 works well enough for me, i was speaking for the pixelpeepers out there, lol. to them, m43 will never be as good as a larger sensor camera, no matter how good it is in absolute terms. so while the new sensor will be quite good, and even as good or better than the old 5d classic (which i have and love), there are always folks who will claim it's not as good as the newest apsc.

one other thing on apsc, i guess i think about it in system terms. while sony and samsung have put apsc in smaller bodies, afaik the lenses are still large. so m43 is still different in that regard.
 
f/2.8 zooms are quite large in APS-C and 35 - it may be that Olympus hasn't been able to design a f/2.8 lens that's size appropriate to MFT bodies
 
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