Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
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FrankS
Registered User
Ash, Di sounds like a flake.
Asking for photo credit for a free photo is reasonable.
You took the photos apprprpriately for a web site.
Too bad you don't have high res files to offer for the unforeseen magazine publication. Missed opportunity, that!
Asking for photo credit for a free photo is reasonable.
You took the photos apprprpriately for a web site.
Too bad you don't have high res files to offer for the unforeseen magazine publication. Missed opportunity, that!
kully
Happy Snapper
I'm with Frank... what a load of hassle.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
I spoke to Tami (the other blonde) as she called me just now. Apparently all my terms are fine with the magazine (as I thought) and all the money is going direct to Cancer Research and the kemotherapy unit in Swindon.
So I'm waiting for the email and contact details for roger from the local, and I'll probably get the blurb so I'm not caught up with exclusivity rights to images - since if other papers want the story they'll want exclusive images.
So now I need to work out when the next photoshoot is.
So I'm waiting for the email and contact details for roger from the local, and I'll probably get the blurb so I'm not caught up with exclusivity rights to images - since if other papers want the story they'll want exclusive images.
So now I need to work out when the next photoshoot is.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
I gather her name is "Dipstick"!
Kim
Kim
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
I'm confused about the original file sizes you did use:
All you need for 10cm @300dpi is about 1200 pixels on that dimension so you'd really have to lower the resolution to drop below that. So maybe you don't need to re-shoot
As to holding out for payment for publication in a major mag or paper, well, that makes sense to me.
...Mike
Ash said:Aaaanyway on that shoot I took a few small compact flash cards. I used the Canon 1DmkII, which as some of you will know is capable of high res images. I however changed the settings to allow for high res, but not HIGH res. I didn't really want to use RAW and get one or two files on a 256mb card.
All you need for 10cm @300dpi is about 1200 pixels on that dimension so you'd really have to lower the resolution to drop below that. So maybe you don't need to re-shoot
As to holding out for payment for publication in a major mag or paper, well, that makes sense to me.
...Mike
pesphoto
Veteran
Sorry for your stress over this Ash. Sounds like youre handling it all ok. Just remember, if you do start doing more work like this for others things like this pop up all the time. I pretty much just expect it and so when issues arise it's a little less stresful. All you can do is deal with it honestly and openly with your clients and work things out. As it seems you have.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
I guess I can see the photo's aren't ALL bad if the magazine didn't want a reshoot to begin with.
I'm not holding out for payment as such. I knew all money should and will go to charity. I don't have the money to donate (and I'm waiting for my last piercing to be 'healed' enough to donate blood) so I'm happy to work for free if my 'cut' goes somewhere honest.
It just wound me up and I needed some reassurance I'm not going off the rails here!
And yea - Diana = Dipsy
I'm not holding out for payment as such. I knew all money should and will go to charity. I don't have the money to donate (and I'm waiting for my last piercing to be 'healed' enough to donate blood) so I'm happy to work for free if my 'cut' goes somewhere honest.
It just wound me up and I needed some reassurance I'm not going off the rails here!
And yea - Diana = Dipsy
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
fwiw - 10x8 cm at 300 dpi is about 1200x950 px dimensions. 10x8 inchs at 300 dpi is about 3200x2400px
Your file sizes as stated should have been sufficient, unless there was some confusion along the way.
If you want me to take a look at the files at my magazine's prepress, let me know.
You can email me at rogue(dot)designer(at)gmail(dot)com.
Your file sizes as stated should have been sufficient, unless there was some confusion along the way.
If you want me to take a look at the files at my magazine's prepress, let me know.
You can email me at rogue(dot)designer(at)gmail(dot)com.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
I thought the files should be sufficiant, but hey. I'm waiting for the email address of the magazine guy and I'll talk to him direct.
Avotius
Some guy
Stick with it, she seems like a real, well as said above, a flake. I have done more then enough charity shots for whatever to know that beggars cant be choosers.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Michiel as I said above, Tami called (Diana was probably too upset by the stress to talk direct) and it should all be sorted.
I whacked 300dpi into gimpshop and you're right RD, the filesize is a fraction off 10x8.
Avo, funny thing is the story that backs it all up is Tami's, because of a family member who was hit by cancer (can't remember which member, but very close to her) so it is through that story they are getting the exposure for the Three Blondes (errr...two) rally team charity thing. That's what makes me most mad that Diana is getting stressed over something that is actually Tami's. In my eyes anyway.
I whacked 300dpi into gimpshop and you're right RD, the filesize is a fraction off 10x8.
Avo, funny thing is the story that backs it all up is Tami's, because of a family member who was hit by cancer (can't remember which member, but very close to her) so it is through that story they are getting the exposure for the Three Blondes (errr...two) rally team charity thing. That's what makes me most mad that Diana is getting stressed over something that is actually Tami's. In my eyes anyway.
kmack
do your job, then let go
This is the kind of thing you have to expect when you get into a service based business.
Fortunately you can use this as a low impact learning experience.
You have discovered several important lessons here.
1. The aggravation factor increases as the profit margin decreases.
2. The client will expect more than what was agreed upon.
3. Stay away from blondes.
Fortunately you can use this as a low impact learning experience.
You have discovered several important lessons here.
1. The aggravation factor increases as the profit margin decreases.
2. The client will expect more than what was agreed upon.
3. Stay away from blondes.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
A mate of mine who's an architect calls it 'gold bath taps'.
When he gets a client they tell him they want something pretty simple, and he designs it. Then they upgrade their wishes and get annoyed when he increases the spend.
When he gets a client they tell him they want something pretty simple, and he designs it. Then they upgrade their wishes and get annoyed when he increases the spend.
Benjamin Marks
Veteran
My 2 cents. Until you have the luxury of choosing your clients, you have to work with the clients you've got. I recommend trying to fix the technical issues with the photos you've already taken, but after direct communications (voice, or face to face) with the person who will be using them. Make sure that there is not something being lost in translation as to why the original files won't work.
Good luck. I am also in a service business, FWIW, and often the only thing to distinguish you from the next fellow in line is how hard you are willing to work.
Ben
Good luck. I am also in a service business, FWIW, and often the only thing to distinguish you from the next fellow in line is how hard you are willing to work.
Ben
Pablito
coco frío
sorry, fellas, I'm not comfortable with the distinctly sexist overtones of this discussion. Seems inappropriate to me.
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
Pablito your view is welcomed but won't be argued further than the following;
Diana/Tami are friends of mine. Any opinions in this thread are formed by people solely on the email messages I have quoted in entirety. If I had said they were from another male I'm sure the response would be the same.
Only the person posting the message is responsible for their opinions. If you would like to single out one or more people who you believe is being overtly sexist please bring it to light, as I would surely have words with them also.
Diana/Tami are friends of mine. Any opinions in this thread are formed by people solely on the email messages I have quoted in entirety. If I had said they were from another male I'm sure the response would be the same.
Only the person posting the message is responsible for their opinions. If you would like to single out one or more people who you believe is being overtly sexist please bring it to light, as I would surely have words with them also.
BJ Bignell
Je n'aurai plus peur
One thing to be learned from this: Cut out the middleman (or middlewoman, in this case).
Once you found that they were going to be published, you should have asked for the newspaper people to contact you directly. Be sure to reassure your friend that you are not trying to cut her out, but rather working to ensure that everything is accomplished in the most effective way possible. Also, don't forget to CC your friend with all of your communications; this will make it easier for her.
Good luck!
Oh, and I wanted to ask: Why is it thethreeblondes.co.uk when there are only two of them? Am I missing something?
Once you found that they were going to be published, you should have asked for the newspaper people to contact you directly. Be sure to reassure your friend that you are not trying to cut her out, but rather working to ensure that everything is accomplished in the most effective way possible. Also, don't forget to CC your friend with all of your communications; this will make it easier for her.
Good luck!
Oh, and I wanted to ask: Why is it thethreeblondes.co.uk when there are only two of them? Am I missing something?
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
BJ,
I've asked for the guy's email address but I haven't been given it. I'll contact the magazine directly later today but the now-settled atmosphere may get all stressful again.
There were initially three blondes to participate in their team, but one dropped out. Small amounts of publicity (and the name was registered) had been put in place, so Di thought it might be funny and "a blonde thing to do" to keep the name. She may be flakey at times, but she embraces the blonde
I've asked for the guy's email address but I haven't been given it. I'll contact the magazine directly later today but the now-settled atmosphere may get all stressful again.
There were initially three blondes to participate in their team, but one dropped out. Small amounts of publicity (and the name was registered) had been put in place, so Di thought it might be funny and "a blonde thing to do" to keep the name. She may be flakey at times, but she embraces the blonde
Sparrow
Veteran
Jon Claremont said:A mate of mine who's an architect calls it 'gold bath taps'.
When he gets a client they tell him they want something pretty simple, and he designs it. Then they upgrade their wishes and get annoyed when he increases the spend.
We coined the name retro-spec a few years ago; the client must make one change to justify their job.
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