Beutler developer

Yes, normally it should be 0,55 - 0,62 but due to the fact I am working with a diffusser with single condensor system (Dunco II 120 pro with split grade (TM) ) 0,65 is not too bad and the Beutler test is not completely finished yet.

Thanks to the info I am directly on the right track with this Beutler developer. Normally it takes me at least 3 test strips of film for such a test.

Best regards,

Robert
 
This is what I have got. My pond in my garden.
Rollei Super Pan 200, iso 160 in Beutler for 9:30 minutes in a dilution: 1+1+10
Leica M7 + Summicron 2,0/50mm.

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That looks really good! I suspect that the 200 needs a bit more "kick" than some of the Acros/EK 5231. At 1:1:10 the Beutler "exhausts" itself after 7-8 minutes. It is a great developer combination - cheap to make too.
The baking soda is an interesting alternative - only problem could be to dissolve 150+ grams. That is getting pretty close to a saturated solution.
 
I was pleased with the result too.

The Beutler is simple to make and indeed increadible cheap, less then € 0,05 / film.
The 10.H2O. NaCO3 household soda is simple to dissolve due to the fact the H2O is comming out and the reaction is endotherm so the water is heating up automatically. It's going without any problems in the solution B.

I saw that the lifetime of the divided solutions is at least 6 months so in handling, price and simplicity it's a unique developer.

Best regards and thank you for your valuable comments.

Robert
 
Hello:

To Tom and all: how, in your experience, do the Beutler formuli compare with Rodinol 1:50 or 1:100 ?

yours
FPJ
 
Rodinal in 1+50 or 1+100 is also going to be a high definition developer but I think this Beutler is just a tick sharper.
But Rodinal 1+50 is more semi-compensating.

The biggest disadvantage in Rodinal is the effective film speed which is going down for most films 1/3 - 2/3 F stop. And you need a slow agitation otherwise the grain is growing quickly.

For the price: Well Rodinal in 1+100 is still cheap.

I am really wondering why the price of 5 small bottles Neofin Blau/Blue from Tetenal is in Holland between Eur. 10,00 and Eur. 12,00 . Amaloco AM50 was Eur. 2,71 for 60ml 3-4 films!
 
Of course - I forgot about the soda being endotherm! On the other hand. my degree in clinical chemistry is close to 40 years old!
Carbonate is cheap too. I buy it in 10kg volume for something like $3.0/Kg.It is hygroscopic and unless sealed in plastic bags - it takes on the consistency of concrete.
I find that the Rodinal and Beutler give you a different look. Rodinal has a bit smoother look at 1:100 - but looong times (and boring). The Beutler is reasonably quick and it does give a bit more "edge" to the grain.
 
That's Great!

That's Great!

Well, that's great. I find a kindermann tank and the OS X clock make browsing rrf and Rodinol 1:50 - 14min development times compatible.

yours
FPJ
 
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From the local Hippie days celebration! This is with Kodaks EK 5231 (Plus X movie stock), rated at 100 asa (easier than trying to remember 80 iso when shooting with unmetered cameras).
Developed in Beutler 1:1:10 for 6 min. I cut 1/2 minute off here as it was really bright sunshine. Nikon S4 rangefinder and the old Nikkor 25mm f4.0 Rf lens. Not bad for a lens that is pretty close to 50 years old!
 
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Chris, I had the 1952, the 1954, the 1957, the 1961 and a 1973 Westphalia. Obviously I am a slow learner. Got quite good at sliding engines out and rebuilding or replacing them. Rarely bothered to put the rear bumper back on as it slowed down the process.
 
Here my attempt from this afternoon:
Efke 25 (E.I.25) with Beutler 1+1+10 for 7:30 minutes.

Indeed the negatives are rasor sharp.

The ducks nest. The bird was just away: M7 + Summarit 2,5/75mm.
Just along the river: M7 + Summicron 2,0/50mm
Well it looks like a magic combination. Recommended by Fotohuis!
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very nice, I like the results. I am heading down to New York this evening and plan on trying to pick-up the ingredients for Beutler, D76 two-bath, and D-23 while I'm in the city. It looks like B&H might have all the necessary chemicals.
 
I am using for solution B, household Soda (Sodiumcarbonate) € 0,90/1000g.
It's Na2CO3 . 10 H2O so for the recalculation:

1 mol Na2CO3 = 52g
1 mol Na2CO3 . 10 . H2O = 152g

152/52 x 5g = 14,6 g Soda (Household)

Solution A:
1g Metol
5g Sodiumsulfite

fill up till 100ml demi-water.

These are the most common ingredients for a lot of developers.
 
I have tried the EFKe at Rodinal 1:1:8 for 5 min. too. Higher contrast (for flat light stuff) but the 1:1:10 works better. Grey and dismal outside today - waiting for the annual pilgrimage of British Car guys on Saturday here. 600 cars and it is usually sunny. Great for some Acros 100 and potentially for Efke 25.
 
I have been using Rodinal 1:100 stand with my Efke films, work wonders when pushing KB400 a stop or two. But I am thinking of using Beutler 1:1:10 for lower speed emulsions... especially KB25 and KB50.

I may even try Tri-X(400TX) pulled to 320 or 250 also...

Just have to find the compounds... anyone in Australia able to give some advice on where to get the needed chemicals to make Beutler?

Thanks,
 
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