jarski
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I would consider eye-fi etc. Wifi cards with older digitals like M9 and M8, and same vintage dSLRs. Two year old camera should already have network built in, and those are more stable and easier to use than wifi cards.
Camera that "synchs" with an i-phone7
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sevo
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Mine work on 8-9 year old digital cameras. But there are no more cards that do not require a SDHC slot, and the ancient Eye-Fi SD cards depended on a online service that has long been discontinued. So you are SOL with cameras that do not take a SDHC card.
Beware, "sync to mobile" is generally limited. The Wifi speeds by these low power cards inside a camera that provides a fair amount of shielding for the slot are very limited, the cards generally will not push RAW at all, and large JPEG may take 20-30 seconds per shot (so that sequences will have you stuck synchronizing for many minutes). Even at the best of times, it is much worse than the Wifi capabilities of current cameras with native Wifi. Right now my main use for the cards is to pull images out of the waterproof/diving camera without having to open the sealed card compartment more often than absolutely necessary, when I need live sync I use the Sony (whose native Wifi will also allow to use a phone or tablet as a viewfinder/remote control).
And Eye-fi (Mobi) is somewhat rogue. They have a strategy of using the cards as a tool to force the users into their cloud, automatically uploading images to the internet and being configurable only via cloud services - taxing your data plan and bringing a whole slew of copyright and security issues. After Eye-fi discontinued support for my card (which I bought a mere two or three years ago), I've given up on them and now use Toshiba and Transcend Wifi enabled cards, which have much less of the above issues...
daveleo
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Thanks again, guys.
Well, dad (my niece's dad) stepped in and said his Christmas budget for this is $300.
Oh my (I was thinking $800).
I am now looking at used DSLR's.
Need to assess how computer-wise my niece is in terms of cloud accounts, wifi and what her cell phone data account allows. I will see her next week.
I think we're heading for a used DSLR and a cable from camera to i-phone. (I think.) Also need to learn how comfortable she is with card transfers into her computer, which she hasn't thought of yet.
Last night, this was evolving hour by hour via text messages.
Thank you all enormously for input. This thread maybe will stand to define these options for anyone looking to this in the future.
Well, dad (my niece's dad) stepped in and said his Christmas budget for this is $300.
Oh my (I was thinking $800).
I am now looking at used DSLR's.
Need to assess how computer-wise my niece is in terms of cloud accounts, wifi and what her cell phone data account allows. I will see her next week.
I think we're heading for a used DSLR and a cable from camera to i-phone. (I think.) Also need to learn how comfortable she is with card transfers into her computer, which she hasn't thought of yet.
Last night, this was evolving hour by hour via text messages.
Thank you all enormously for input. This thread maybe will stand to define these options for anyone looking to this in the future.
jarski
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Just guessing but that can leave it unused entirely. People these days, especially younger ones, have less patience to hassle with cables, transfers and dedicated software. A pic should be online right after shutter has snapped 🙂
daveleo
what?
At 71, I am very challenged to understand how today's youthful minds work
(or indeed . . . do they work?)
🙂
MIkhail
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Used Sony NEX6 with a lens should be almost withing your reach, I would think.
Wonderfull camera and has the WIFI connectivity (I use it all the time on vacation).
MIkhail
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willie_901
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For casual use the Fujifilm iPhone App works well. I don't consider this a substitute for tethering because with LR, for example, it would be more awkward than direct tethering.
This App supports image transfer and camera operation (focus, shutter, aperture, etc.) You have to exit your phone's internet WiFi network (if you were using one); start the camera's WiFi; then join the camera's WiFi network. With an iPhone it helps if you disable the 'automatically join new network' function or otherwise keep the phone from rejoining your default in case you accidentally turn the camera off.
I'd be interested in knowing about other brands that join an existing home WiFi network. In some cases, this would be more convenient.
I used the Fujifilm iPhone App and an iPad for camera control (camera was on a tripod) to involve interiors photography clients in real-time editing when they wanted to be involved with scene staging and framing.... or when I suspected they might change their minds the next day. The clients loved being able to walk around the scene scene and rearrange objects in real time. With the X-T1 this worked very well.
The WiFi range is good. The connection is reliable. Battery life did decline. I don't think the latter is an issue for image transfer. You do not have to use camera control to transfer images. There may also be a stand-alone image transfer-only App... I can't remember.
This App supports image transfer and camera operation (focus, shutter, aperture, etc.) You have to exit your phone's internet WiFi network (if you were using one); start the camera's WiFi; then join the camera's WiFi network. With an iPhone it helps if you disable the 'automatically join new network' function or otherwise keep the phone from rejoining your default in case you accidentally turn the camera off.
I'd be interested in knowing about other brands that join an existing home WiFi network. In some cases, this would be more convenient.
I used the Fujifilm iPhone App and an iPad for camera control (camera was on a tripod) to involve interiors photography clients in real-time editing when they wanted to be involved with scene staging and framing.... or when I suspected they might change their minds the next day. The clients loved being able to walk around the scene scene and rearrange objects in real time. With the X-T1 this worked very well.
The WiFi range is good. The connection is reliable. Battery life did decline. I don't think the latter is an issue for image transfer. You do not have to use camera control to transfer images. There may also be a stand-alone image transfer-only App... I can't remember.
Bill Clark
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Maybe I have the wrong thinking/logic but I like the way, maybe it works for me but not you, taking the made photos off of whatever device with either direct connect with a storage/jump drive/ external drive, after the person is done shooting for the session/day whatever or; what I'm gong to do, is dump the photos into a jump drive then move them at a later time. It's not teathered but a later time/day transfer, at office/home, whatever.
I believe if a person desires to immediately share the photos then capture them wih a device you can do that.
I'm actually thinking of moving my capture of photos off with a DSLR to using my iPhone and iPad and transfer a days worth later. I'm currently processing photos that my wife is framing of our grand children, the largest is 5x7. The portable devices I use work very well for prints that size and even larger.
Has this person thought of buying a flat screen TV with the $300 that would enable the photos to be viewed from a smart phone or tablet computer?
I hate to downplay getting a DSLR but I think, for most folks, it's overkill for what I see as the photos being made. But a DSLR can make a young person think they're cool. Sometimes hard to convince otherwise.
I believe if a person desires to immediately share the photos then capture them wih a device you can do that.
I'm actually thinking of moving my capture of photos off with a DSLR to using my iPhone and iPad and transfer a days worth later. I'm currently processing photos that my wife is framing of our grand children, the largest is 5x7. The portable devices I use work very well for prints that size and even larger.
Has this person thought of buying a flat screen TV with the $300 that would enable the photos to be viewed from a smart phone or tablet computer?
I hate to downplay getting a DSLR but I think, for most folks, it's overkill for what I see as the photos being made. But a DSLR can make a young person think they're cool. Sometimes hard to convince otherwise.
daveleo
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Thanks all for the additional input. I will boil it down before overloading the poor kid (and her dad) with the options.
A clarification, please: Some older DSLR's can take a wifi adapter (Nikons for example take WU-1a/b adapters). These don't actually connect to the internet, correct?
In fact I think that you don't "push" pictures out of the camera using these wifi adapters - you "pull" them out from the iphone app. Is that correct?
So for an older camera, you would plug in the adapter, go to the iphone, start the app and pull the pictures over. (?)
This is similar to cable the camera to a computer, set it to USB mass storage, mount the camera on the computer file system and copy/move the files. (?)
(Actually all I do is slip the SD card into the computer. All this other stuff is way too complicated, but I see why people would want to do this.)
Again thanks for the education.
PS: I think the newer cameras (like the NEX6) do actually direct connect to facebook, etc)
EDIT: please keep in mind, this is an 18 year old who wants a "professional camera" and I am 99% sure this is driven by social pressure more than a real photographic need. BUT ... she may be a future artist just starting to learn.
A clarification, please: Some older DSLR's can take a wifi adapter (Nikons for example take WU-1a/b adapters). These don't actually connect to the internet, correct?
In fact I think that you don't "push" pictures out of the camera using these wifi adapters - you "pull" them out from the iphone app. Is that correct?
So for an older camera, you would plug in the adapter, go to the iphone, start the app and pull the pictures over. (?)
This is similar to cable the camera to a computer, set it to USB mass storage, mount the camera on the computer file system and copy/move the files. (?)
(Actually all I do is slip the SD card into the computer. All this other stuff is way too complicated, but I see why people would want to do this.)
Again thanks for the education.
PS: I think the newer cameras (like the NEX6) do actually direct connect to facebook, etc)
EDIT: please keep in mind, this is an 18 year old who wants a "professional camera" and I am 99% sure this is driven by social pressure more than a real photographic need. BUT ... she may be a future artist just starting to learn.
wjlapier
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I'd consider the Sony A6000 then. Or Nikon 5500 ( I think 5300 is similar ).
Part of what I do with my cameras that connect to my phone is I share photos with friends and family through Facebook and Instagram. The Sony HX80 gives me optical zoom the iPhone 7 could never achieve. The A6000 allows me to use different lenses ( again something the iPhone 7 could never do ).
FWIW, I don't think the NEX6 connects to Facebook--not that I've noticed though.
Part of what I do with my cameras that connect to my phone is I share photos with friends and family through Facebook and Instagram. The Sony HX80 gives me optical zoom the iPhone 7 could never achieve. The A6000 allows me to use different lenses ( again something the iPhone 7 could never do ).
FWIW, I don't think the NEX6 connects to Facebook--not that I've noticed though.
Ronald M
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Buy a phone that takes pictures. Problem solved
Nikon D750 has builtin wifi to send pics to phone
Nikon D750 has builtin wifi to send pics to phone
MIkhail
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If it does I am not aware of it.
It does connect to IPhone quite easily wirelesly, no cable or adapter needed. Fast too - but files are up to 2 meg in size, I think.
Suitable for Facebook for sure.
aizan
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something like the fuji x-m1, sony nex-5t or 5r will do the trick. they're older models but still have wifi. happy shopping!
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
There is a "Direct Upload" plugin for plugin capable Sony cameras, which can so far do direct uploads (from the camera internal image browser) to Facebook and Sony's own Playmemories Online service.
MIkhail
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Did not know that.
But I think it has to be a lot more convenient to send photo to iPhone and from there post on Facebook, Instagram, share with friend, etc.
BTW I don't recall if mentioned, you don't need outside WIFI for this to work.
Camera creates it's own local WIFI if you will. Accessible only to your phone.
Godfrey
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Both the Olympus OIShare and Leica SL apps can seek and connect to a camera that has been connected to a local WiFi network. Both support authentication credentials that limit other users from accessing their data (both cameras and apps).
I don't know about others I've used.
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Godfrey
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I was 10 when I wanted a camera with real adjustment capabilities. My mother loaned me her Arbus C3 at that point.
Most WiFi-enabled cameras can either connect to a local hot spot or connect to an existing WiFi network. Most also allow you to access them with a dedicated app or act as a web server, allowing access from a web browser.
Some cameras support apps that allow direct access to online services. I've never used any of these things.
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willie_901
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johannielscom
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Fuji cameras can push the image to an iPhone by wifi, Sony uses a Near Frequency Chip to push the image to an Android phone but an iPhone app might available too.
But OTOH, professional cameras require professional use to get professional results and pushing images from a camera to a phone (!) and perhaps straight on to the internet is far from professional.
I'd say get her an entry-level DSLR and a photography course. And maybe a course to withstand social pressure😉
But OTOH, professional cameras require professional use to get professional results and pushing images from a camera to a phone (!) and perhaps straight on to the internet is far from professional.
I'd say get her an entry-level DSLR and a photography course. And maybe a course to withstand social pressure😉
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