Can I Make Money With Photography?

[Al Patterson]

Well, Lulu, or whoever that chicken REALLY is took a shot at my taking a warehouse job to pay the bills. (And yes, the IT industry is turning around).

I doubt this "Lulu" loser has ever done a hard days work. I'll also bet if he sold as many articles to Shutterbug as Roger has, he's be bragging about it. Jealous maybe? Who knows?

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say...

 

[antiquark]

After checking his post again I can't see where he accuses you of being a "lifelong failure".
Perhaps you're reading more into it.

Maybe you're looking at the wrong post. The offensive post was #76.

(Which I hope the moderators don't delete, as it provides an object example of why people get banned.)

 

[back alley]

Thanks for your viewpoint - I was wondering if others really saw this as so insulting as to warrant banning. It is a judgment call, but I see many other posts insulting people just as offensive. A lot of it depends, I am sure, as to who's ox is being gored at any particular moment.

being banned was not based on this thread.

lulu is a loser who keeps coming back under different names with the sole purpose of insulting others.

he is the victim of a high intellect and a low brow.

 

[emraphoto]

Something tells me it isn't a bunch of "video kids". I would hazard a guess that "lulu" is a long ways away from kid.

 

[jack palmer]

I got a BFA in Photography from the Maryland Institute College of Art back in the 70's and knew before I finished that it was no way to make a living. At least not for me. Moved to Califonia in my 20's and painted houses before I landed a job in a custom furniture shop. I realized that with my Art education and the fact that I was pretty good working with my hands, that this was a pretty creative and enjoyable way to make a living. I moved back to Baltimore in 1980 and started my own shop. I just retired 8 months ago although I still build furniture because I still enjoy it. It's amazing how many men (or women) can't even hang a shelf. We've lost something in this country, with vocational programs in high schools being cut. No one wants to work with their hands anymore. Go to any construction site anymore and it's mostly Mexicans. There's still a makket for high end custom cabinet makers and they command prices to match. I've enjoyed every minute of it but it's hard , demanding work, that requires the skills of owner, manager , accounting, saleperson, as well as being good at your craft. Photograpy has always been a hobby, I knew early on that I would never be able to make a living doing photography. I admire anyone that can.

 

[Bike Tourist]

I couldn't sleep this night, the hefty rain woke me up. So I started checking my favorite forums. Landed here. Saw the title and thought: well, looks interesting at these bad economic times. Jumped to the last page.

I can't believe it. Is this WAR?

It is so sad that people don't have better things to do than to insult others? Though I know the Internet already changed society and behavior, I am shocked to see what is going on here.

It appears to me that only the truly professionals and people who live their dreams with satisfaction and dignity like Roger Hicks try to stand up and be honest to do the best to 'iron out the waves' as we say in German.

Whatever happened here, I am not going to read it. The last page was enough. More than enough to know that this is turned into another playground for some brainless and lunatic game shooters, video kids, a generation that doesn't know the 'traditional rules' or 'good taste' anymore.

Very sad to see how everything changed. No, not just sad. It's a nightmare for me to see how rude people and society turned over the last months.

My advice: open your eyes (as real photographers you should know how to do that, don't you?), get back to reality and out of the virtual world. Act as if you are looking 'the other guy' straight into the eyes!

It is so disgusting here... no, not only here, in many forums to be honest. That makes me sick and forces me to think if I should abandon the forums I have subscribed to in the future. I have better and more important tasks waiting for me to survive the bad economical situation.

Dear toyotadesigner —

Maybe a name you don't want to take credit for, right now? Ha, ha, just a joke, really. My wife drives a Lexus. I'm car free and bike dependent. Usually.

When I started this thread, hardly an original one, I was surprised at the vitriol it engendered. After all, photography is, in most cases, a spectator sport and most of us are interested in some exposure and remuneration.

I tried to get it back on track several times but the damage was already done. I do think you should go back and read some of the earlier posts because there is a lot of fascinating information there, at least for me.

I have always liked RFF for the civil discourse here in opposition to the unadulterated crap that passes for discussion on some other boards. So, I hope this time it's just an anomaly and we'll be back in the future to talk about what interests us.