Canon EOS RP

[Archlich]

Surprisingly there's no subforum for Canon mirrorless cameras...

https://www.nokish!ta-camera.com/2019/02/eos-rp.html

- 26.2 Megapixel full frame sensor
- Dual Pixel AF
- DIGIC 8 Processor
- 5fps
- ISO:100-40000 (50-102400 expanded)
- Organic EL EVF
- 132.5 x 85.0 x 70.0 mm
- 440 grams body only, 485 grams with battery
- Rumored MSRP is $1300-$1600

This is one small ugly camera that doesn't have in body stabilization. But oh my it is small...and light. Lighter than anything else in the class. And it has an actual grip. Fully articulated screen is good for us who don't want to bother with the monitor.

Would be nice for adapted lenses.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Adapted EF mount lenses I have 🙂
If it will be the price, I'll upgrade from 5D MKII for higher iso and less weight, size.

 

[retinax]

Now if they can make small lenses, don't need to be fast, but performing well...
A tiny 40 and a tiny 28 a la Cl would be nice.

 

[Archlich]

Now if they can make small lenses, don't need to be fast, but performing well...
A tiny 40 and a tiny 28 a la Cl would be nice.

The 35/1.8 IS STM is not big. Other than that I doubt we'd see any truly small native lenses soon. Manufacturers are concentrating on rushing out big pro lenses for the Tokyo Olympics next year.

That's why it seems to be good for adapted small lenses for the moment...

 

[ptpdprinter]

Other than that I doubt we'd see any truly small native lenses soon.

I doubt we will see small lenses anytime soon. Manufacturers seem to have lost the desire or capability to make them. The Fujicrons are the exception.

 

[jsrockit]

They at least need a regular style 50mm (F1.8 to F2) at a decent price for these cameras. A $1600 body with a $3000 50mm is not going to work too well for the budget conscious crowd. I'm not an adapter fan at all.

 

[littleearth]

That is one ugly little camera ! I do love their lenses though.

 

[bayernfan]

Canon's AF point selection on these first R cameras leaves a lot to be desired. Moving the hand away from the dials to 'thumb' the rear screen seems so unnecessary when a thumb stick could have easily been implemented. I have a feeling they're saving the thumb-stick for the professional models.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Now if they can make small lenses, don't need to be fast, but performing well...
A tiny 40 and a tiny 28 a la Cl would be nice.

40 2.8 is the pancake, adapter adds to it, but it is still compact.
My EF 22-55 is compact zoom and it works fine on EOS.
Writes the lens ID and aperture size to exif.

 

[santino]

It is ugly... at least it doesn't have a fake pentaprism.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

It is ugly... at least it doesn't have a fake pentaprism.

Thanks for noticing! Now I know why I like it amongst all of those ugly variations of original ugly A7 🙂

 

[Range-rover]

No way, like always they're milking it, expensive lenses to boot not impressed!

 

[bayernfan]

the massive lenses are also very unappealing.

 

[nightfly]

I don't quite understand what the appeal of these cameras are as opposed to DSLRs when the lenses are so large and the bodies are marginally smaller and less bulky.

Is getting rid of the pentaprism/mirror that much of an advantage to DSLR folks?

If I already had invested in a full frame Canon or Nikon DSLR and lenses, why would I want one of these?

Genuinely curious. I don't quite get it coming from the Leica film and digital world.

 

[jsrockit]

No way, like always they're milking it, expensive lenses to boot not impressed!

Bob, they are supposedly going to make the cheapest new FF digital camera ever (at launch)... while the specs are not groundbreaking, I can't agree that they are milking it.

 

[jarski]

I doubt we will see small lenses anytime soon. Manufacturers seem to have lost the desire or capability to make them. ...

Methinks manufactures will soon rediscover them, once current "make it as big as you like, as long as its fast" trend has been exhausted.

 

[ptpdprinter]

Methinks manufactures will soon rediscover them, once current "make it as big as you like, as long as its fast" trend has been exhausted.

Not if you look at the lens roadmaps for Canon, Nikon, and Leica SL. I don't think Panasonic has posted a roadmap, but given the size of the full frame bodies and the three announced lenses, I am not expecting any small lenses from them anytime soon.

 

[al1966]

I don't quite understand what the appeal of these cameras are as opposed to DSLRs when the lenses are so large and the bodies are marginally smaller and less bulky.

Is getting rid of the pentaprism/mirror that much of an advantage to DSLR folks?

If I already had invested in a full frame Canon or Nikon DSLR and lenses, why would I want one of these?

Genuinely curious. I don't quite get it coming from the Leica film and digital world.

The big advantage I find is having set the EVF to the same brightness as my monitor that is set to print density from my printer I get a great view of exposure. However, I don't use any of the FF bodies any more, as the lenses seem bigger than DSLR alternatives. The Hassleblad X1d seemed more compact than the Sony I sold and the M240 with f2 lenses is again smaller. I shoot m43 where I can get small size and it does the job. From what I have read a lot of this oversized lenses is down to people wanting lenses that are perfectly sharp from edge to edge from f1.x to f22, and so they end up being very over corrected. Yet there are great photographs taken with lenses designed with pen and paper that had great character and some magical qualities.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I don't quite understand what the appeal of these cameras are as opposed to DSLRs when the lenses are so large and the bodies are marginally smaller and less bulky.

Is getting rid of the pentaprism/mirror that much of an advantage to DSLR folks?

If I already had invested in a full frame Canon or Nikon DSLR and lenses, why would I want one of these?

Genuinely curious. I don't quite get it coming from the Leica film and digital world.

New Leica lenses are often bulky as well. Sumilux 21,24 1.4 are half a kilo bricks.

Mirrorless FF EOS allows to use all of the Canon lenses, in principal,
from LTM, to FD to EF. I have Canon LTM and EF. And best (optically) 28mm I owned was FD mount 70$ lens.

It is no difference from Leica, which I also own. All lenses are compatible via adapter.

Basically, RP is same size and weight as my EOS300 film Canon.
And I have no problem to use my L zooms on it. In fact, it is my most preferable SLR film body, because of small size and weight. And it has AF, great metering, flash and all modes. I didn't bond with Canon EOS 3 and even Elan 7e is little bit large for my taste.
I don't take out 5DMKII because of bulk and weight, but I like to go out with small EOS 300 and same Canon L lenses.

Now, if Canon ever puts FF into SL body... I could use just EF lenses and this will be it 🙂.

If here is no problem to haul three Leica lenses each is 3K$, I don't see a problem with 16-35 f2.8 L lens to be just single lens for 1.5K$ via 129$ adapter. It is f2.8 on 16 and 18mm. And it takes pictures at 21, 24, 28 and 35 mm as well. So, it is 5+1 Leica lens in one.
DSLR, small FF doesn't matter, advantage is the same.

 

[Range-rover]

Bob, they are supposedly going to make the cheapest new FF digital camera ever (at launch)... while the specs are not groundbreaking, I can't agree that they are milking it.

I think so, all the new cameras like this are about $2000 and up, maybe
one day someone will come up with a camera with less crap in it, does everybody here
use everything that they put into these modern marvels I don't, I'd go crazy if I did. I think
Nikon and Canon have a problem with Sony and Fuji with their mirrorless and they have to
play catch-up and add things the S&F don't have. We will have to see in the meantime I'll
use my Fuji.