Range-rover
Veteran
Wow $1400.00 for a 26 megapixel full frame, great news for Canon user if they
want to add or switch over to mirrorless. Will be interesting to see how they are
accepted. I tell you Sony must be giving them (Canon and Nikon) nightmares at
night that they had to go mirrorless.
want to add or switch over to mirrorless. Will be interesting to see how they are
accepted. I tell you Sony must be giving them (Canon and Nikon) nightmares at
night that they had to go mirrorless.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
1299$ with adapter, bh pre order.
giganova
Well-known
Agreed! None of the mirrorless cameras are visually appealing, but at least this one doesn't pretend there's a pentaprism in it.In other words, it's the least ugly of an ugly crew.
giganova
Well-known
Fuji X-Pro2 + 23/2 = $1,949
Canon EOS RP + RF 35/1.8 = $1,748
Which of the 35mm focal length choices would you pick? APS-C vs FF ... optical viewfinder vs EVF?
Canon EOS RP + RF 35/1.8 = $1,748
Which of the 35mm focal length choices would you pick? APS-C vs FF ... optical viewfinder vs EVF?
michaelwj
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Agreed! None of the mirrorless cameras are visually appealing, but at least this one doesn't pretend there's a pentaprism in it.
It’s not just about pretending to have a pentaprism but also allowing space for the rear screen and buttons. Without the VF hump, the screen must be smaller, unless it is in a corner (RF style).
michaelwj
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Fuji X-Pro2 + 23/2 = $1,949
Canon EOS RP + RF 35/1.8 = $1,748
Which of the 35mm focal length choices would you pick? APS-C vs FF ... optical viewfinder vs EVF?
Coming from a Leica, the optical VF wins any day of the week. And it also has an EVF too.
aizan
Veteran
the best news of the day is the RF-mount 70-200/2.8. look at how small it is!
if the bokeh stays soft and smooth, this might be the killer app that canon needed.

if the bokeh stays soft and smooth, this might be the killer app that canon needed.
giganova
Well-known
The camera will look like a lens cap!
Huss
Veteran
Sooo Canon has released a new 26mp FF mirrorless for $1300, while Olympus released a new 20mp m43 camera for $3000?
Hmm.
Hmm.
Fuji X-Pro2 + 23/2 = $1,949
Canon EOS RP + RF 35/1.8 = $1,748
Which of the 35mm focal length choices would you pick? APS-C vs FF ... optical viewfinder vs EVF?
X-Pro2 every time...
Sooo Canon has released a new 26mp FF mirrorless for $1300, while Olympus released a new 20mp m43 camera for $3000?
Hmm.
For two totally different markets... a super mainstream budget ff vs a very special usage m43 camera... but of course people can only see sensor size as a differentiating factor in cameras these days.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Fuji X-Pro2 + 23/2 = $1,949
Canon EOS RP + RF 35/1.8 = $1,748
Which of the 35mm focal length choices would you pick? APS-C vs FF ... optical viewfinder vs EVF?
I don't know anymore. I looked at provided samples from RP and at full size view it looks awfull. Why fake 26 mp if obviously sensor not supporting it....
Very disappointed.
bayernfan
Well-known
Another shiny new piece of gear to get all excited about. I still fall for it myself, particularly when the price puts it within reach.
In a few weeks/months it's just another boring camera, a model that does things ever so slightly better than its predecessor.
In recent memory, the only groundbreaking camera from a features perspective is the D850. I don't have a need for one myself, but kudos to Nikon for giving photographers a serious upgrade.
In a few weeks/months it's just another boring camera, a model that does things ever so slightly better than its predecessor.
In recent memory, the only groundbreaking camera from a features perspective is the D850. I don't have a need for one myself, but kudos to Nikon for giving photographers a serious upgrade.
These cameras (Canon and Nikon) are DOA already. Sony and Fuji are in charge of this market. Too little too late
Come on... hyperbole at its finest.
Ccoppola82
Well-known
I just can’t get over the size of the mirrorless lenses. It seems so off balance for me. Tiny body with massive lens. I think Leica ruined me with an m6/M2 and 35 or 50mm Cron. So small and easy to carry. I graduated to the Fuji XPro2 to stay along with that compact system. Now, I have an MP240 on the way to see if I like it. They all have compact and high quality output. I still have my canon 6d system and use it for weddings or concerts and stuff, but I doubt I would move to a canon mirrorless.
Huss
Veteran
For two totally different markets... a super mainstream budget ff vs a very special usage m43 camera... but of course people can only see sensor size as a differentiating factor in cameras these days.
I see price too as a differentiating factor. And I see an m43 camera for almost 3x the price of a FF camera that will have better pic quality.
I love my m43 OM EM10mk2. It is tiny and has excellent quality considering its size. The EM1X is not tiny, not remotely, but the excuse is that it is for pro severe use. But.. Pros who need a camera for severe use have FF options that have much better image quality than an m43. Once you're shooting at that level you just need the best tool. And will pay for it as it is a business expense. The EM1X does not match up to pro Canikons, no matter how much weather sealing they glue all over it, as it is hampered by that sensor.
So it's kinda interesting who will really buy it. Prosumers will see the price tag and pick much better image quality cameras for less money. Pros will see that sensor and pick better image quality cameras with pro build.
michaelwj
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“And will pay for it as it’s a business expense”
But the business still needs to pay for it. If cost didn’t matter for a business then why is my company car a Toyota and not a Porsche? Cost always matters. If my business can spend $3k less on a camera then I can get paid $3k more.
But the business still needs to pay for it. If cost didn’t matter for a business then why is my company car a Toyota and not a Porsche? Cost always matters. If my business can spend $3k less on a camera then I can get paid $3k more.
lynnb
Veteran
I see price too as a differentiating factor. And I see an m43 camera for almost 3x the price of a FF camera that will have better pic quality.
I love my m43 OM EM10mk2. It is tiny and has excellent quality considering its size. The EM1X is not tiny, not remotely, but the excuse is that it is for pro severe use. But.. Pros who need a camera for severe use have FF options that have much better image quality than an m43. Once you're shooting at that level you just need the best tool. And will pay for it as it is a business expense. The EM1X does not match up to pro Canikons, no matter how much weather sealing they glue all over it, as it is hampered by that sensor.
So it's kinda interesting who will really buy it. Prosumers will see the price tag and pick much better image quality cameras for less money. Pros will see that sensor and pick better image quality cameras with pro build.
Hi Huss,
I think this is the reason for the EM1X: hand-holdable super telephoto, for the Olympics. To me it looks like Olympus is hoping that Olympics photographers with the EM1X will be able to get photos that others can't, with up to 2,000mm (? - see linked article) equivalent handheld.
The market for such a camera must be very small, even including BIF enthusiasts.
Cheers,
Lynn
mcfingon
Western Australia
I seem to be alone in thinking this RP is the best-looking Japanese mirrorless camera to date. I also like that it references the Canon P rangefinder with its initials. So, it’s got at least two good things going for it. A compact 50/2.8 or 40/2.8 lens would make a nice portable camera I could carry on my motorbike trips.
John Mc
John Mc
I don't know anymore. I looked at provided samples from RP and at full size view it looks awfull. Why fake 26 mp if obviously sensor not supporting it....
Very disappointed.![]()
Can you explain further why you think this sensor is so bad?
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