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This lens can cost Paul $400. Search for a 50/1.8 @ $125.
Canon P vs. Canon 7
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raid
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A Canon camera bracket adds weight a low cost.
paulfish4570
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The 50/1.8 is no lightweight, but I never weighed it. It seemed as heavy as any of my SLR normal lenses ...
Mablo
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I prefer not to use my reading glasses when shooting. Canon P's shutter speed dial is big and contrasty enough I can sort of see the shutter speed markings without glasses. At least I can see where the orange X sign is and can calculate it from there. This small detail is important for me.
paulfish4570
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Agreed, Mablo. My Konica SIII does not require reading glasses ... 🙂
rcbooth
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Canon P vs. Canon 7
I have both but for me it is the 7. Much better viewfinder particularly for someone wearing glasses. Yes, the P looks nicer but functionally, the 7 is better for me.
I have both but for me it is the 7. Much better viewfinder particularly for someone wearing glasses. Yes, the P looks nicer but functionally, the 7 is better for me.
alexnotalex
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Paul, they are both great choices, but I'd add my vote for the P.
Aesthetically beautiful, practical, simple, extendable, reliable, hefty, and oh did I mention it's beautiful? A mechanical work of art.
1:1 viewfinder means you can shoot both eyes open, and you can actually see what's going on with the focussing patch. If you keep the finder and your glasses clean it works great.
Although the 35mm line is kinda hard to see with glasses, I open both eyes for the 35mm viewpoint. 50mm is one eye.
good luck, and post some P pics when you get it.
best,
Alex
Aesthetically beautiful, practical, simple, extendable, reliable, hefty, and oh did I mention it's beautiful? A mechanical work of art.
1:1 viewfinder means you can shoot both eyes open, and you can actually see what's going on with the focussing patch. If you keep the finder and your glasses clean it works great.
Although the 35mm line is kinda hard to see with glasses, I open both eyes for the 35mm viewpoint. 50mm is one eye.
good luck, and post some P pics when you get it.
best,
Alex
feenej
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I had a 7 and sold it. Bought a P and I like it much more, and I think I will keep it. However the 7 is a great camera and I love the retro look of the meter. The 7 seems more bulky to me, that was my biggest issue with it.
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paulfish4570
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Speaking of the 7, if the selenium meter is no good, can it be removed without putting a big horizontal crater in the body? From the photos, it appears to be mounted on the body ...
Bill58
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Somebody around here aptly named the P an "eyeglass killer" and it truly is. You gotta put some kind of rubber O-ring or gasket around the metal VF. You also gotta check the VF framelines to make sure they are NOT dim before you buy it.
newspaperguy
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I'm tempted to take my 7 with it's wonky meter apart to
see if the bulging cell could be replaced with a flat panel.
I should have Raid's buddy Eddy S. check that when he replaced the shutter.
In the meantime, my P gets all my love.
Ref: Bill58 - yep, O rings and contact cement for most old cameras.
see if the bulging cell could be replaced with a flat panel.
I should have Raid's buddy Eddy S. check that when he replaced the shutter.
In the meantime, my P gets all my love.
Ref: Bill58 - yep, O rings and contact cement for most old cameras.
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alexnotalex
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My P has a plastic on the viewfinder where I put my glasses, so no danger of scratches. I've only ever seen pictures with the black plastic on the eyepiece. (This part unscrews and slides out for convenient cleaning.)
I think you might be mixing it up with another body?
best,
Alex
If the meter is erratic, it could be the contacts between the top plate and the body. I would try cleaning them before removing the cell. Same with my Contax IIIa- I "jiggle" the window of the cell and that tends to bring it back to life, including accurate exposure.
oftheherd
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Paulfish4570 - Just for curiosity, which Fujica SLRs do you have and use?
EDIT: The reason I asked is your comment about not liking to depend on batteries. I have the ST 801 and the ST 901. The 801 as you may know has match diodes, and the 901 is automatic. The batteries in both last a long time, and the 901 will warn you with blinking diodes before it dies. They are both small, but weighty for their size.
That is only relavant to tremors and autoexposure, not which Canon RF you might prefer.
EDIT: The reason I asked is your comment about not liking to depend on batteries. I have the ST 801 and the ST 901. The 801 as you may know has match diodes, and the 901 is automatic. The batteries in both last a long time, and the 901 will warn you with blinking diodes before it dies. They are both small, but weighty for their size.
That is only relavant to tremors and autoexposure, not which Canon RF you might prefer.
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Bill58
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You are 100% right. It was late at nite and I was tired. the offending VF eyepiece is on my L1--sorry to denigrate the P!
paulfish4570
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I have the 601. Not much tremor effect with it, but I just like the SP more now that it is cla'd. The SP ergos are best by a bit, plus it has a little more weight than the 601. I certainly am not having any issues with the Konica S III, either, or with the Yashica Lynx. Ergos and weight distribution matter a bunch, I have discovered. My Bessa R with its lightweight body just seemed to spin around whatever lens I was using, like a wheel on an axle. Six ounces more and better ergos are sublime. Thanks for the tips ...
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The viewfinder on my Canon 7 is more of an eyeglass killer than is the Canon P. The latter has a nice frame around it.
On the Canon 7, the problem is the Hi/Lo selector being too close to the viewfinder. I put a self-sticking rubber foot made for a laptop computer on the switch. Acts as a stand-off. I like both cameras, but end up using the Canon P most of the time. I like the 1x viewfinder.
The Chrome Canon 50/1.8 is much heavier than the black Canon 50/1.8. The Chrome lens is as heavy as the 50/1.5, and as Raid Mentioned, is ~1/3rd the price. The Chrome 50/1.8 is also contoured like the 50/1.5, and clears the viewfinder of the Barnack Leica's.
On the Canon 7, the problem is the Hi/Lo selector being too close to the viewfinder. I put a self-sticking rubber foot made for a laptop computer on the switch. Acts as a stand-off. I like both cameras, but end up using the Canon P most of the time. I like the 1x viewfinder.
The Chrome Canon 50/1.8 is much heavier than the black Canon 50/1.8. The Chrome lens is as heavy as the 50/1.5, and as Raid Mentioned, is ~1/3rd the price. The Chrome 50/1.8 is also contoured like the 50/1.5, and clears the viewfinder of the Barnack Leica's.
