Cellphone?

[ptpdprinter]

The camera in a smartphone is a tool, just like a dedicated camera is a tool. Use the best one for the job. Street photography is one area where the ubiquity of the cellphone is a real benefit. Me, I just can't hold the damn things steady.

 

[dmr]

I do occasionally when I don't have a Real Camera with me.

I don't like it! I just can't get used to trying to compose on a jerky screen held out in front of me. The thing has all of the ergonomics of trying to take a photo with a piece of buttered toast!

One guy I was talking to at Photo Plus on this topic talked me in to trying Open Camera, so I tried it, and, well, still more or less the same.

 

[raid]

It is my "third camera". Leica M8 and M9, and then it is my iPhone 8 Plus.

It is always in my pocket.
It is charged and has a short buffer time.
It takes nice enough images.
Image files can be changed slightly with PP, if needed.
People don't get alarmed by it.

I am not "insulted" by people using phones to document life around them.
Life is too short to worry about such an issue.

 

[goamules]

Taemo, those great shots show that the tool isn't important, the person behind the ground glass is.

 

[B-9]

I have the iPhone 7+ and have enjoyed the camera...

Spent a little extra on the Moment Lens system.

Great for 4K b-roll. Although not so impressed with the portrait mode always telling me to back up.

 

[jsrockit]

It seems like if you accept it for what it is, it's OK. I think the problem is when people try to say they are "Dslr killers"...

 

[taemo]

it depends on what makes them DSLR killers, for IQ and lens selection then I agree that it can't compete.

but if we are talking about size and ease of use then to me it kills DSLR, just how the Fuji X100 killed my Canon 5D Mark II over 5 years ago.

 

[Bill Clark]

Smartphones changed the photography market.

I like my iPhone 6s.

I find not enough is said, but just maybe the person holding the camera has something to do with the photos made.

 

[Bille]

Popular as it is “real photographers” scoff at the phone. I’m one of the scoffers. I use “real cameras.” But, I remember when I started photographing with a 35mm film camera, an older, wiser and better photographer friend said to me, “Why don’t you use your real camera?”

Ergonomically, all phones are terrible. Otherwise I think my iphone7 plus easily beats 35mm color film for resolution.

 

[BillBingham2]

I’ve just inherited my oldest son’s 7 Plus and am trying to get used to carrying it. I was using an iPhone 5 along with my Ricoh GR III until it stuck open one day. I’ve got a Pixtar Pro on order (March-ish delivery date) for times where I want more control. I’ve learned to begrudgingly accept the iPhone controls (though still have many new features to try/learn) that I can get ok images with. Sometimes they actually help me capture stuff that is better than I expected (completely by accident).

Most of the time I shoot stuff I come across and for that any camera I have is much better than all my cameras at home. While I can get better quality even with the addition of the Pixtar Pro I can’t beat the size. The quality of the two lenses is good enough.

There’s stuff that I love to shoot that odds are a smart-phone will never work for how I like to work (sports, distance, telephoto stuff). I think there’s some opportunity Zeiss, Leica, perhaps Nikon to co-develop and brand different phone, but I’m not sure of the value as so much can be done in software. I have a feeling that my 7 Plus will replace my favorite carry everywhere combo of all times (Bessa L & CV 25/4 Snapshot) in another few months.

B2 (;->

 

[jsrockit]

it depends on what makes them DSLR killers, for IQ and lens selection then I agree that it can't compete.

but if we are talking about size and ease of use then to me it kills DSLR, just how the Fuji X100 killed my Canon 5D Mark II over 5 years ago.

Pure IQ... Not size of course.

 

[Doug]

...I think there’s some opportunity Zeiss, Leica, perhaps Nikon to co-develop and brand different phone, but I’m not sure of the value as so much can be done in software. I have a feeling that my 7 Plus will replace my favorite carry everywhere combo of all times (Bessa L & CV 25/4 Snapshot) in another few months.

B2 (;->

"How Huawei and Leica made a camera phone so good, we ditched our DSLR"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/huawei-p20-pro-leica-street-photography/

 

[jsrockit]

"How Huawei and Leica made a camera phone so good, we ditched our DSLR"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/huawei-p20-pro-leica-street-photography/

The title says that... and they say "On a recent trip to Leica HQ in Wetzlar, Germany, we learned more about how this came to be —" but then say "That doesn’t mean we’re getting rid of our mirrorless cameras and DSLRs, though, and we will still lust after each new Leica special edition rangefinder." Total gear head nonsense.

 

[xavyr]

I don't like it! I just can't get used to trying to compose on a jerky screen held out in front of me. The thing has all of the ergonomics of trying to take a photo with a piece of buttered toast!

I finally accepted that my last phone (Samsung Note 4) could make photos of decent - within limits - quality, oh, but that horrible and slippery grip!

The ergonomics thing was solved (and also with the new phone - a Note 9) by addition of a PopSocket. Placed about one-third of the length from the bottom, it permits (for me) a secure and comfortable portrait or landscape hold when wedged between the first two fingers of the left hand.

Still want a proper viewfinder, though...

 

[kbb]

Interestingly, all of the phonecam shots posted in this thread are variously too contrasty, have burned-out highlights, or have ugly travel brochure color.

 

[Out to Lunch]

Hi Raid, that's a very nice picture of your daughter!

I've never had any fun taking pictures with a phone and so, I'll not go down that road. Let's see where the phone market is heading. So far, the market for high-end phones -with enhanced photo capabilities, is tanking. This said, I believe it is a given that most people will continue to look for all-in mobile products.

 

[jsrockit]

.So far, the market for high-end phones -with enhanced photo capabilities, is tanking. This said, I believe it is a given that most people will continue to look for all-in mobile products.

Tanking? ...

 

[robert blu]

Cellphones are a tool, with its advantages and its limits.

I sometimes use mine (old 5s) to take visual notes. Sometimes I make photographs with it.

robert

 

[Michael Markey]

I use whatever is to hand.
Mostly that's a camera but sometimes not ….
I recall some years ago David Allan Harvey produced a book half the shots were with an iPhone and half with a Leica .

 

[Out to Lunch]

Tanking? ...

As in: "to do poorly or decline rapidly; fail". I hope that clarifies.