Close up; 50mm summi or 90mm Tele-Elmarit

[Kahnlund]

I have a 50mm Summi that I enjoy but sometimes I feel that i want to get a bit closer. I have found a Tele-Elmarit for a good price but the question is will that "fill the frame" better
as the Summi has a close foc at 0,7m and the TE 1,0m..?

I cant try out the TE as it is located in another city, so I would appreciate any input on this.

Thanks!
/Mattias

 

[Roger Hicks]

Dear Mattias,

At 1 metre, the 90mm image with be 9/5 the size of the 50mm = 1.8x.

At 0,7metre, the image will be 10/7 the size of the image at 1 metre = 1.4x.

Divide 1.4 into 1.8 and you get 1.28x, so the 90 will indeed be bigger. In fact, the area covered by the 90 at its closest focusng distance will be about 60% of that covered by the 90 at is closest focusing distance.

A rough calculation, but good enough to make the point.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Kahnlund]

Perfect!

Thanks a lot Roger thats just what I needed to hear.

Cheers,
Mattias

 

[Roger Hicks]

You're welcome. I've just thought of a much easier argument, though.

Put a metre rule on the table.

Select the 9cm frame and see how much of the rule is visible at 1 metre.

Select the 5cm frame and see how much of the rule is visible at 0,7 metre.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Kahnlund]

Ofcourse! Why did'nt I think of that......

Cheers,
Mattias

 

[Rive Gauche]

I have a 50mm Summi that I enjoy but sometimes I feel that i want to get a bit closer.

Try the summicron 50 DR !

Summicron 50 DR, Tri-X 400, D-76 1+1

 

[Kahnlund]

Try the summicron 50 DR !

Nice picture,
So whats the close focus on a DR?
/Mattias

 

[maggieo]

I use the Tele-Elmarit for detail shots and the Summilux for medium shots:

Bowery Pine Tele, June, 2010

Summilux 50/1.4

Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8

 

[StaaleS]

Nice picture,
So whats the close focus on a DR?
/Mattias

Normal focusing on the DR stops at 40 inches (3'4") at about 1:15-1:16 magnification, add the goggles and it goes down to 19" for a 1:7.5 magnification. Sorry, my copy is non-metric but I'm sure you can do the conversion for yourself

 

[Rive Gauche]

Nice picture,
So whats the close focus on a DR?
/Mattias

Thank !

From 48 cm to 88 cm with the googles. From 1 m to inifiny without.
It's a great difference with the summicron (from 70 cm to infiny) in my use.

I'm French, forgive my poor english !

 

[ferider]

The DR doesn't fit all Leicas, including many M6 bodies. Great lens though.

Get the TE, everybody needs a 90mm. Make sure there is no haze or etching on the elements, best is one with serial nr > 3 Mio.

Roland.

 

[Rive Gauche]

The DR doesn't fit all Leicas, including many M6 bodies. Great lens though.

It does not fit with the M6 TTL and the M7, but it works fine if you remove a tiny piece of the googles.
In this way, yo can also use it with a M8 or a M9, only in close-focus range.

 

[ferider]

It does not fit on many M6 bodies (including classics) because the RF cam may collide with the meter cell. Not a problem of the goggles. This varies from body to body.

 

[tele_player]

As might be guess from my username here, I like the subject of these photos.

I use the Tele-Elmarit for detail shots and the Summilux for medium shots:

Bowery Pine Tele, June, 2010

Summilux 50/1.4

Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8

 

[maggieo]

As might be guess from my username here, I like the subject of these photos.

They're the best electric guitar on the planet, IMO. Bar none. If you get a chance to get your hands on one made by Rick Kelly at Carmine Street Guitars, you'll be a very, very happy picker. I know I am!

 

[Kahnlund]

I am using a MP, will the DR work on that?
Anyway according to the seller the TE should be in excellent condition.
Although its a bit old, serial no. 2794621

maggieo; very nice pictures of the guitar, its exactly that kind of stuff that i want the TE lens for.

/Mattias