Sylvester
Well-known
Hi everyone.
I own a Minolta CLE coupled with a rokkor f/2 40mm. I would like to have a wider lens along with it, since even on my SLRs I don't have anything wider than that 40.
So I am thinking about a 28mm leica mount.
Hell, they cost a lot, even used.
The voigtlander could be OK, but it looks big for the small CLE from the pictures I've seen on the net.
Hexanon is a lot, Avenon is super rare, GR lens even more.
The 28 Rokkor isn't usable.
So I started thinking about a compact.
Then I saw Moriyama's pictures.
So here's my dilemma: keep my money for a leica mount lens or buy now a GR1(S)(V)? The Klasse W?
The idea of a camera I could carry in a jean pocket becomes kind of obsessive. What keeps me away from clicking on Buy It Now on evilBay is the noise these cameras could make...
I mainly shoot street and candid, here you can find what I prefer to shoot: http://oliviersylvestre.portfoliobox.net/
So what should I do? I don't ask you to decide for me, I simply want your opinions.
Thank you,
Olivier
I own a Minolta CLE coupled with a rokkor f/2 40mm. I would like to have a wider lens along with it, since even on my SLRs I don't have anything wider than that 40.
So I am thinking about a 28mm leica mount.
Hell, they cost a lot, even used.
The voigtlander could be OK, but it looks big for the small CLE from the pictures I've seen on the net.
Hexanon is a lot, Avenon is super rare, GR lens even more.
The 28 Rokkor isn't usable.
So I started thinking about a compact.
Then I saw Moriyama's pictures.
So here's my dilemma: keep my money for a leica mount lens or buy now a GR1(S)(V)? The Klasse W?
The idea of a camera I could carry in a jean pocket becomes kind of obsessive. What keeps me away from clicking on Buy It Now on evilBay is the noise these cameras could make...
I mainly shoot street and candid, here you can find what I prefer to shoot: http://oliviersylvestre.portfoliobox.net/
So what should I do? I don't ask you to decide for me, I simply want your opinions.
Thank you,
Olivier
JayM
Well-known
Canon LTM 28 or Voigtlander LTM 28.
Ultron 28mm f/2 or 1.9 would be pretty big on a CLE. It's right at the border for me on an M2.
I've thought about the GR1 route before but like manual focusing and keeping it with the M system. Who knows though, maybe an AF point and shoot would change my photographic life!
Ultron 28mm f/2 or 1.9 would be pretty big on a CLE. It's right at the border for me on an M2.
I've thought about the GR1 route before but like manual focusing and keeping it with the M system. Who knows though, maybe an AF point and shoot would change my photographic life!
FrankS
Registered User
Another vote for a Canon 28 ltm. Either the f2.8 or 3.5 version.
GaryLH
Veteran
Another vote for a Canon 28 ltm. Either the f2.8 or 3.5 version.
Another vote for canon 28...
Also to add to your point and shoot list that have 28mm lenses.
Minolta tc1 and Nikon 28ti
Gary
Sylvester
Well-known
Thanks for suggesting the Canon lens, can't find one on evilbay at the moment...
Can the Klasse, Minolta and Nikon enter in a jean pocket?
***edit***
The Nikon looks real cool! Those needles hahaha!
Minolta is a real high-class camera right?
Can the Klasse, Minolta and Nikon enter in a jean pocket?
***edit***
The Nikon looks real cool! Those needles hahaha!
Minolta is a real high-class camera right?
GaryLH
Veteran
Thanks for suggesting the Canon lens, can't find one on evilbay at the moment...
Can the Klasse, Minolta and Nikon enter in a jean pocket?
No experience with Klasse.
Relative of my wife loves his Nikon 35ti .. Here is link to what the 28ti looks like.. I think loose jean pocket fit
http://www.google.com/search?q=nikon+28ti&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|1;d|7eaCwMG4PNeTSM:
Minolta tc1 will definitely fit. Check the link below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=minolta+tc-1&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xU00UKCmJeLM2AX-hoHIDg&ved=0CGcQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=644#biv=i|0;d|bBJrxl7Hee0h_M:
Good luck
Gary
GaryLH
Veteran
Sylvester
Well-known
I don't wear "loose" jeans hahahagarylh said:I think loose jean pocket fit![]()
I saw an image of the CLE alongside the Minolta, man that is small.
Now I'm even more close to a compact... Another problem is: to much choice!
The thing is, a CLE, even without lens, won't fit in my jean pockets.
GaryLH
Veteran
My personal all time favorite jean pocket camera was the Contax T with flash attachment removed... For film that is.
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/contaxt.html
I liked this camera so much I have two of them
. But it is a 38mm lens and u want 28.
Gary
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/contaxt.html
I liked this camera so much I have two of them
Gary
sparrow6224
Well-known
Forget your jeans pockets, it's not a criterion worth your mental energy. Get a wrist strap for the CLE, hang if off your arm, and put a Voigtlander 28/3.5 LTM with an off brand 28-90 LTM>M adapter. Fabulous lens, not too much $. If you're patient you'll find one cheap. The Canon 28mm is harder to find and you never know the condition of those very old lenses -- which is not to say you shouldn't grab one if it comes along. They have a terrific reputation.
hausen
Well-known
My favorite jeans camera is the Rollei 35
sparrow6224
Well-known
I think the best jeans camera is an iPhone 4g. I do have an Oly XA however, just in case.
back alley
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i would get the lenses i want for the cle first and then think about a pocket camera.
if you could find the cle 90 and the cv 28/3.5 you would have a near perfect film kit...then add a nice digital p&s later.
if you could find the cle 90 and the cv 28/3.5 you would have a near perfect film kit...then add a nice digital p&s later.
Both...get an Olympus XA4 and a Canon 28mm 3.5 Serenar with a M adapter. $400 should cover both.
BikoBikoBiko
Member
Forget your jeans pockets, it's not a criterion worth your mental energy. Get a wrist strap for the CLE, hang if off your arm, and put a Voigtlander 28/3.5 LTM with an off brand 28-90 LTM>M adapter. Fabulous lens, not too much $. If you're patient you'll find one cheap. The Canon 28mm is harder to find and you never know the condition of those very old lenses -- which is not to say you shouldn't grab one if it comes along. They have a terrific reputation.
+1 this is exactly what I'd be looking to do in your situation.
NeeZee
Well-known
well, judging by your portfolio, it looks as if you like to grab fast shots once in a while, probably prefocusing. Don't know if an AF p&s like the minolta or nikon would be your best bet. The Oly XA4 has scale focusing, which i prefer over AF for wide angles due to speed and ease of use. If you're going the lens route you could also consider a 25mm skopar in LTM. Used they are the cheapest modern LTM lenses and really good, virtually distortion free and sharp. You can sometimes get them at about 200$ INCLUDING the finder. No RF coupling though, but you don't need that with this lens and the focus click stops are great. you might even use it without an external finder, as you have the 28mm brightlines on the CLE.
btgc
Veteran
GR's are nice but beware of failing LCD's.
jonasv
has no mustache
The CV 28/3.5 is very nice. Very small, too. Unlike the faster CV 28's you're thinking of.
If you don't wear loose jeans, forget about any film P&S fitting in there... it'll just be annoying. Try carrying two film boxes in your jeans for a whole day and see what I mean.
If you don't wear loose jeans, forget about any film P&S fitting in there... it'll just be annoying. Try carrying two film boxes in your jeans for a whole day and see what I mean.
jonasv
has no mustache
That said, Ricoh GR1v's are very cool 28/2.8 cameras...
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