Conservative Photography

Hey Roger, I picked up AP today, and saw that the discussion from this thread seems to have inspired some of your thinking. Your column is still the best part of the mag.
 
Rodchenko said:
Hey Roger, I picked up AP today, and saw that the discussion from this thread seems to have inspired some of your thinking. Your column is still the best part of the mag.
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Thank'ee kindly -- please do not hesitate to make your opinions known to Damien -- but this thread is only a week old: it's more that this thread reflects things I've been thinking about for some time. The columns go in two weeks or more ahead, and I don't always know the order in which they will appear. The most recent column I've seen is the one for computer programmers and economists.

Cheers,

R.
 
That's the one. Yes, quite possibly the influence happened the other way round, but you were talking about propaganda in the three fields.
 
Rodchenko said:
That's the one. Yes, quite possibly the influence happened the other way round, but you were talking about propaganda in the three fields.
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Indeed. Anyone who fail to think hard about propaganda is in danger of being influenced by it without realizing. With realizing: well, that's legit. Sort of.

Cheers,

R.
 
Sorry. It's a very popular mag in the UK, and has been going since forever, so we tend to know it as AP rather than the full version. I didn't take into account that there were people (most members) outside the UK when I posted.

Roger's been doing a column since about 1926, or something ;)
 
One of the more powerful images I have seen in a while. These are victims of the Rana factory collapse.

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(Photo: Taslima Akhter)

Several have said that "conservative" values are not easy to photograph. Not true! This pair died in a failing building, in a country with few building inspectors.

They died in a country flooded by foreign capital.

They died in a country in which it is nearly impossible to unionize.

They died in a nation that is a servant of globalization.

They died in a factory that feeds the ugly maw of Walmart.

Here you are conservatives, the poster children.
Randy

P.S. To our British friends, I know that 'conservative' means something different to you. To me too. Conservatives like me would never allow our country to be torn down.
 
Randy... Thanks for the picture though. I keep looking for stuff made here in the USA, but it doesn't seem to be available at any price..
 
Al Patterson said:
Randy... Thanks for the picture though. I keep looking for stuff made here in the USA, but it doesn't seem to be available at any price..
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Domke camera bags are made in USA, and higher-end Tamrac bags are. I have several Tamrac and Domke bags, all made in USA. The cool thing is, they were no more expensive than other major brands like Lowepro that are all made in China.
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
Domke camera bags are made in USA, and higher-end Tamrac bags are. I have several Tamrac and Domke bags, all made in USA. The cool thing is, they were no more expensive than other major brands like Lowepro that are all made in China.
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Sure, my Think Tank bag is US made,but all my shoes come from China or Vietnam. I do have some old Timberland boots from when they were made here. Shirts? All over. And BTW, I don't generally shop at Walmart, except that they sell film cheaper than CVS.
 
Powerful, disturbing shot.

Powerful, disturbing shot.

"Here you are conservatives, the poster children."

Wow. Awesome. Maybe photography is a progressive medium because it shows the world how it truly is, not how some think it ought to be. Truth is a very bothersome thing if you are determined to be unseeing.
 
Al Patterson said:
Sure, my Think Tank bag is US made,but all my shoes come from China or Vietnam. I do have some old Timberland boots from when they were made here. Shirts? All over. And BTW, I don't generally shop at Walmart, except that they sell film cheaper than CVS.
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I didn't know Think Tank bags were made in USA. I'm glad to hear that!
 
So if this building were built conservatively then it would mean that traditional techniques and materials were used that were meant to stand the test of time.

Also, Wal-Mart is the company that has driven small, traditional, "mom and pop" stores out of business. Wal-mart is the radically, new, progressive entity which has risen over the last few decades.
 
Thardy said:
So if this building were built conservatively then it would mean that traditional techniques and materials were used that were meant to stand the test of time.

Also, Wal-Mart is the company that has driven small, traditional, "mom and pop" stores out of business. Wal-mart is the radically, new, progressive entity which has risen over the last few decades.
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In the modern USA, the "Conservative" label, when applied to politics, economics, and religion has come to mean "Right-wing". The "Liberal" label here in those contexts means "Leftist".
 
sdotkling said:
"Here you are conservatives, the poster children."

Wow. Awesome. Maybe photography is a progressive medium because it shows the world how it truly is, not how some ideologues think it ought to be. Truth is a very bothersome thing if you are determined to be unseeing.
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Or maybe it is a progressive medium because people naturally want to fix problems. It is much easier to show a problem and suggest a solution than it is to document all the possible negative outcomes of the solution. As often as not when actual negative outcomes are documented, they just are interpreted as more problems to fix.

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Bill
 
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