RObert Budding
D'oh!
This is an Internet forum. People will post their opinions, like it or not.
Ste_S
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Or compare them both with a Canon EOS 300x + 40 2.8 stm and both of them look like the overpriced jewellery that they are.
redimp
Member
Take a look at this comparison video I found some time ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PBE707Wcx0
Fuji has a nicer shutter sound. But look at the ergonomics on t3, for such a small camera it's outstanding – you can place both fingers on two buttons, the lock and shutter, while on fuji the lock button is really hidden. Plus the dial is on the corner of the camera, like T2, so you can turn it on with just the thumb. On fuji it's over the body, and you need both fingers to turn it on.
In the video you see that guy has them both pre-focus the lens on half-press. I don't see any difference that was mentioned by someone else in this thread in how this works on both cameras, it's virtually same, and seems like Fuji just copied contax.
Fuji has a nicer shutter sound. But look at the ergonomics on t3, for such a small camera it's outstanding – you can place both fingers on two buttons, the lock and shutter, while on fuji the lock button is really hidden. Plus the dial is on the corner of the camera, like T2, so you can turn it on with just the thumb. On fuji it's over the body, and you need both fingers to turn it on.
In the video you see that guy has them both pre-focus the lens on half-press. I don't see any difference that was mentioned by someone else in this thread in how this works on both cameras, it's virtually same, and seems like Fuji just copied contax.
Jamie123
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Haven't had any personal experience with PPP but I know someone who has and from what I hear the costs are very reasonable. Also, it's not actually a "they", it's just one guy in his early 20s which is actually quite remarkable.
In any case, I'm not sure the broken Contax route is a feasible one since I see that nowadays people try to sell even their non working ones for quite a premium and at some point it's just not worth the risk.
Archlich
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You get only 1/500 with the T3 at f/2.8. I wonder if this extra stop over the T2, available only at smaller apertures as well, would justify $1400.
Personally I'd get a small SLR w/ a bright lens with 1/4000 top speed for $140 and be happy.
Personally I'd get a small SLR w/ a bright lens with 1/4000 top speed for $140 and be happy.
There is nothing wrong with preferring a form factor. There is a reason the EOS is dirt cheap...it is super pedestrian and abundant. Also, in no way fits what the OP wants. It’s great if you want to be thrifty and you do not get swayed by the sexiness of cameras, but many of us here (especially here) do.
But of course people will just keep on insisting that he buy something completely different.
Larry Cloetta
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2-3 pages worth, this thread having immediately gone true to form, mostly not answering his question, mostly whinging about how much things cost, and mostly telling him he should, in essence, “be me, not you.”
It’s what we do in normal times, maybe more so now that the government has taken many of our jobs away, and forced us to shelter in place gobbling up bandwidth all day
Great work, but he used the T3 because it was small and he was in a dangerous place at a dangerous time. It was a lot cheaper back then too (16 + years ago). He kept it in a hip pack. That guy uses so many different cameras. Good article on the Capitolio work:
https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2009/07/chris_andersons_caracas.html
svinao
Member
You get 1/500th with both klasse S and T3 at 2.8. While with T2 the faster shutter you get with 2.8 is 1/90th. How is that one extra stop?
jmarcus
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I love the T3, if you decide not to get it, could you PM me the details I'll probably buy it.
Archlich
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To my knowledge and what I could understand from the manual that it's 1/200 wide open for the T2.
raid
Dad Photographer
Is this true:
The T2's fastest shutter speed at f/16 is 1/500th of a second, but at f/2.8 the fastest shutter speed is just 1/200th
Huss
Veteran
You are recommending what is perhaps the most unreliable 35mm camera made?
james.liam
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No one has mentioned a Ricoh GR1 in its various iterations.
aizan
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Thanks a lot, guys. Now I want two Contax TVS’s.
raid
Dad Photographer
Mine has not failed once in over 30 years. It is also cheap.
If you find a working one, it will stay working most likely. We are talking about a $100 camera.
At least those are a lot cheaper!!!
Archiver
Veteran
Perhaps this is because the T3 has been around a lot longer, and has found its way into more capable hands, than the Japan-only Klasse that was only around for a few years before discontinuation. Not that Japan/Asia lacks good photographers, but the Klasse came at the end of Fuji's film cameras, after digital photography had made film cameras much less popular and used.
The T3, with the attached names of Contax and Zeiss, would draw more photographers than a much less known Fuji camera that was only released in Japan. I saw a Klasse at Yodobashi Camera in Osaka in 2010, and sometimes regret not picking one up. I didn't have a film camera for the Japan trip, and it would have been great to shoot some film then.
Archlich
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No longer have my T2 but I believe that is the case, judging from the program curve in the manual and spec sheet.
In aperture priority the shutter speed is capped at 1/200, regardless of the aperture. Seems like it's for "just in case you pick f/2.8".
nickthetasmaniac
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Probably not the best camera to use as an example of reliability, given that the 35RD is notorious for expensive-to-fix shutter failures...