Graham Line
Well-known
back alley said:do ya think a 21 is different enough from a 25 to warrant having one?
joe
Though I haven't used the wider lenses as much on RF cameras as on SLRs, I find a very distinct difference between the 24 and 20 that I have. You have to remember that the millimeters don't add up to much difference but the field of view changes significantly. Someone above mentioned that the perspective is much more dramatic with a 21 than a 25, and I agree.
back alley
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Joe Brugger said:Though I haven't used the wider lenses as much on RF cameras as on SLRs, I find a very distinct difference between the 24 and 20 that I have. You have to remember that the millimeters don't add up to much difference but the field of view changes significantly. Someone above mentioned that the perspective is much more dramatic with a 21 than a 25, and I agree.
i'm thinking the same thing joe.
funny how, years ago when i had a 24 for some slr system, it just sat in the bag. i could not see wide. and now when i put the 90 on a camera i cannot see long.
this is gonna be fun.
joe
photogdave
Shops local
Her is an image from the 21 in my gallery:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/500/krippsmulti.jpg
I'm saving up for one so I have rented it from Leo's in Vancouver and will buy it from them when I have the money.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/500/krippsmulti.jpg
I'm saving up for one so I have rented it from Leo's in Vancouver and will buy it from them when I have the money.
Rafael
Mandlerian
Cool shot Dave!
ampguy
Veteran
curious
curious
how much do they charge to rent lens?
does anyone do that in n. calif.?
curious
how much do they charge to rent lens?
does anyone do that in n. calif.?
photogdave said:Her is an image from the 21 in my gallery:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/data/500/krippsmulti.jpg
I'm saving up for one so I have rented it from Leo's in Vancouver and will buy it from them when I have the money.
photogdave
Shops local
It rents for $20/day and weekends (when I rent it) are a one-day charge.
ampguy
Veteran
cool, $20/weekend is not bad.
pstevenin
Established
Rafael said:Even with the rectangular hood? :bang:
Yep.
To set the rectangular hood on the skopar, you need first to dismantle the regular hood, which is a PITA. So, mine is always screwed to the lens. Honestly, I never shoot this babe without the rectangle hood (I bought both the same day and it was settled by the vendor).
But as already stated it is a great lens, you just have to know what you are doing (perhaps the flare issue is due to focal length and you may encounter the same behaviour with ZM or Leica, I do not know, I am just a poor amateur jerk...).
pstevenin
Established
ferider said:Just uploaded some CV 21/4 land/city scapes that I took when I had it. As you see my sample was quite resistant to flare (with rectangular hood), but with such a wide angle skies easily get "un-even" in color ...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=6148
Roland.
When I said flare, the conditions were much more severe than those beautiful pictures. It is not that bad, just that, as ferider said, you have to be more aware as the FOV is quite big!
Rafael
Mandlerian
Great shots Roland. I particularly like the vertical composition of the helicopter.
Pstevenin, I appreciate the warning. I have decided to get the lens (with the rectangular hood). Now I'm just waiting to see whether Stephen Gandy can get it to me in time for my trip.
Pstevenin, I appreciate the warning. I have decided to get the lens (with the rectangular hood). Now I'm just waiting to see whether Stephen Gandy can get it to me in time for my trip.
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with the lens cap on i am guessing that even pressure is applied.
without the hood, uneven pressure is applied, the metal bends and it's hard to get off.
another trick is to grap the lip of the shade with 2 fingers and turn and it will come off easier, no pressure is applied to the side of the shade this way.
without the hood, uneven pressure is applied, the metal bends and it's hard to get off.
another trick is to grap the lip of the shade with 2 fingers and turn and it will come off easier, no pressure is applied to the side of the shade this way.
kully
Happy Snapper
I've never had a problem taking the ring off my 21.
When getting stubborn filters off, I tend to press the filter into the palm of my hand and turn, that normally gets them off. But you get an itchy palm too.
When getting stubborn filters off, I tend to press the filter into the palm of my hand and turn, that normally gets them off. But you get an itchy palm too.
Dougg
Seasoned Member
Here are a few samples from the 21mm f/2.8 Biogon-G; don't know how similar this is to the Biogon ZM...thafred said:ok ok...I admit I´m just envious, show us some Biogon Pics!
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OK, here is a HU to ebay, buyer beware and all that fun stuff....
CV 21 with finder, 50mm LTM/M adaptor and Bessa L, BIN $225. Again, why am I not buying this and offerining it for resale?????????????
http://cgi.ebay.com/Voightlander-21...0QQihZ001QQcategoryZ30030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hey, if you snag it offer me the L for a very good price as a finders fee.
CV 21 with finder, 50mm LTM/M adaptor and Bessa L, BIN $225. Again, why am I not buying this and offerining it for resale?????????????
http://cgi.ebay.com/Voightlander-21...0QQihZ001QQcategoryZ30030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hey, if you snag it offer me the L for a very good price as a finders fee.
bump for the shoppers in the crowd.
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