bayernfan
Well-known
biogon has great optics (if you like the zeiss rendering), however, not nearly as compact as this upcoming ultron.
nzeeman
Well-known
its out of my league for many hundreds $... im coming from a country where it ewuals my several monthly pays... even because i bought canon p i will have to sell my zorki 3m and kiev ii from 1953
(but that's another topic anyway...)
kram
Well-known
What I am trying to get across, is that if a 35mm f2 is a lot smaller/cheaper than the Zm, it will must likely have short commings in comparison, on one of these will most likily be distortion. The VC f1.4 35mm lens are great fast, light (200g) lens, but suffer from distortion. I am sure the new VC will be a decent lens but don't expect great it to be perfect.
Dunno about elsewhere, but here in Japan the Voigtlander 35mm F2 Ultron is actually more expensive than the ZM Zeiss Biogon 35mm F2. With an aspherical element with two aspherical surfaces and one extra low dispersion element, I don't really see why its performance would be lacking compared with the Biogon either. If the new Ultron has minimal distortion and better coma control than the Biogon, I'll be very happy.
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132344
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076820364
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076132344
https://www.mapcamera.com/item/4530076820364
Erik van Straten
Veteran
That would be even better, Erik. I doubt there are very many lenses that truly have zero distortion (as in not measurable rather than not noticeable) though, so I'll settle for minimal.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Jon, you are right, but I was only joking.
Erik.
Erik.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I hope price is not going to be doubled once it reaches broader range of dealers.
I don't see why it should be more expensive than 35 1.7.
They both have adequately ugly (retro) focus tab, ring
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EVIL_Guy
Established
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I don't see why it should be more expensive than 35 1.7.
They both have adequately ugly (retro) focus tab, ring
Häh?
My Ultron 1.7/35 VM has no focus tab - unfortunately.
Btw., Are there news regarding the FCS?
Jan. 25th was mentioned some weeks ago ...
lukx
Well-known
Häh?
My Ultron 1.7/35 VM has no focus tab - unfortunately.
Btw., Are there news regarding the FCS?
Jan. 25th was mentioned some weeks ago ...
I have been checking regularly as I am also very interested in these lenses. I hope there will be some tests soon! So far – nothing new...
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
The prices must have been adjusted since your quote, the VGT is now less in your links to Map Camera.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Häh?
My Ultron 1.7/35 VM has no focus tab - unfortunately.
Btw., Are there news regarding the FCS?
Jan. 25th was mentioned some weeks ago ...
VM 1.7 has odd focus ring. RETRO F2 has odd stick.
It is January 23 today, not 25
I think, I'll skip 35/2, I have awesome 35 2.8 and 2.5. Third 35 would be silly
But 21... This one or SA.
EVIL_Guy
Established
VM 1.7 has odd focus ring. RETRO F2 has odd stick.
It is January 23 today, not 25
Yes, I know as I own the Ultron f1.7 (as mentioned)
But you wrote that BOTH (the Ultron f1.7 AND the new one) have this "adequately ugly (retro) focus tab, ring" and that's wrong!
The new one has a stick and that's fine - Better than only a ring ...
EVIL_Guy
Established
It is January 23 today, not 25...
Regarding the date, I know very well what date we have today!
The 25th was mentioned as FCS date for the two new lenses
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
The first thing I noticed was the return to the focus stick rather than the tab, I will buy one or both for that reason alone, I've never liked tabs.
kram
Well-known
Looking into 21mm at the moment. This is small and light like the ZM f4.5. But 3/4 stop faster. A lot smaller than ZM f2.8. Wondering how this lens will compare. Not long to wait now.
Yes, the Biogon was 79,000 yen before. Mustn’t have been a good look having a Zeiss lens cheaper than a similar spec Voigtlander lens.
The new 21mm has the same optics as the Sony E-Mount version. Lots of sample pics on the web already!
I receive my Ultron 35mm tomorrow. Looking forward to it!
