Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I meant to add ... my f***ing head is spinning now ... this is all too much!
A new AE MF folder ... an eleven hundred dollar 1.1 50mm M mount lens and Leica releasing a reasonably priced version of the Leica-O
It's all too much ... I need to go and lie down!
A new AE MF folder ... an eleven hundred dollar 1.1 50mm M mount lens and Leica releasing a reasonably priced version of the Leica-O
It's all too much ... I need to go and lie down!
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
From little I can see in Tom's pics I think bokeh on this lens looks more like bokeh from CV 40/1.4, at least in this shot it does:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rapidwinder/3405738511/in/set-72157616278125070/
I saw that too. Wide open it has the 40mm 1.4 signature, which is not as smooth as a wide open 35mm 1.2. That's a real pity.
Cutly
Established
great news indeed.
Benjamin
Registered Snoozer
...and Leica releasing a reasonably priced version of the Leica-O..
What?! Wow, now that is cool. You guys can keep your amphetamine-fuelled glass, the Leica-O is where its at.
Benjamin
Registered Snoozer
(T&T and Mr B is the only person who has used "nokton50mmf1.1" as a tag.)
Now that is status, Tom.
Now that is status, Tom.
lukjan
Member
But why don't make it a f1 so we could have a true challenge for the noctilux, I have the impression that Cosina is not challenging Leica directly like with the nocton 35mm 1.2. I would like to know what are the true reasons for f1.1
Cheers.
Cheers.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
It's just occured to me that obviously Koboyashi hasn't yet heard that ... 'film is dead!' 
f16sunshine
Moderator
It's just occured to me that obviously Koboyashi hasn't yet heard that ... 'film is dead!'![]()
That, and maybe he has heard of the Pany G1
Could be why the price point is SOOOO much lower than the competition.
But why don't make it a f1 so we could have a true challenge for the noctilux, I have the impression that Cosina is not challenging Leica directly like with the nocton 35mm 1.2. I would like to know what are the true reasons for f1.1
Cheers.
It's about 1/4th of a stop difference. They can get away with a 58mm front, and a lot less glass and weight. AND- F1.1 was the Superspeed lens of the 1950s. The F0.95 did not come out until 1961. There were no F1.1 lenses introduced in over 50 years. Nostalgia.
So- what I want to know is Aspheric surfaces, did they go with Acrylics to keep performance high and cost low. One thing for sure- the lens is going to perform well. Bokeh Schmokeh. Go for speed and overcorrect it for Sharp. I'll break out the Sonnar for smooth.
back alley
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It's just occured to me that obviously Koboyashi hasn't yet heard that ... 'film is dead!'![]()
this would be a very fast 75 on my rd1...
ZlatkoBatistich
Established
Very interested to see how this lens performs.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
this would be a very fast 75 on my rd1...
Or 65mm on my M8 ... I hadn't though of that!
Prosaic
Well-known
Well, first... I am gobsmacked at the price! Cosina could have just easily sold this lens for double and sold almost many
2200$ for a Cosina lens? I dont think so... The RF market is snobby.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Too slow!
Too slow!
a QUARTER of a stop slower than the Noctilux!! Geez... I don't know if I could live with that!
Too slow!
a QUARTER of a stop slower than the Noctilux!! Geez... I don't know if I could live with that!
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Maybe he thinks it'll be a nice companion for the Panasonic G1! 
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
So the question I have to ask is ... under sales pressure from the new Nokton will Solms resort to offering us white or olive green painted Noctliluxes to keep them going out the door? 
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bo_lorentzen
Established
F 1.1 makes perfectly good sense. it is called the 80-20 rule. 80% of the bang for 20% of the money. and looking at a noct for $5000 and a almost as fast CV 50mm for $1100 ish... that is exactly what they got. probably saving at least 1/3 weight in the process.
Though since we live in this "post crop-factor" world, where suddenly my favorite 50mm was longer... forget 21mm lux and give me a 28mm lux and a 35mm noct. I will pay money for a 28mm 1.4 anytime.
Though since we live in this "post crop-factor" world, where suddenly my favorite 50mm was longer... forget 21mm lux and give me a 28mm lux and a 35mm noct. I will pay money for a 28mm 1.4 anytime.
Keith, not very nice. An extra $8,500 for that 1/3rd stop is well worth it. And I'm sure the extra $9,800 over the price of my Canon 50/0.95 is also worth it. It just depends on your budget and requirements.
This new lens should sell like hotcakes.
This new lens should sell like hotcakes.
ferider
Veteran
Funny with those numbers ... in terms of transmission, f1.1 is more than 1/3rd stop apart from f0.95. Similar to the distance of, say, f1.2 and f1.4. And then of course, nobody has compared the real transmission of those two lenses.
Cheers,
Roland.
Cheers,
Roland.
P. Lynn Miller
Well-known
I placed my order with Scott at Mainline Photographics this morning. Done and dusted...
July seems like a long way off...
July seems like a long way off...
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