New York December NYC Meet-Up

JMQ said:
+1 on Rodinal. 100+year old soup and it's extremely fine grained with (as you say) slow films, like ISO 100 film. Of course I have not used it in decades....
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Fine-grained???!!!! your joking right? Were you shooting 8x10? Becuase on 35mm it's anything but!! Rodinal was designed for high acuity. This was probably important a 100 years ago when the lens designs were primitive. Plus everyone was still shooting large format. It's absolutely archaic now. Don't even try to use it with any of the Ilford Delta and Tmax films unless you like uneven blotches. If tonality is what you're after just try the Pyro based developers. People just have this weird nostalgia for it (which is fine).Just a hipster fad in my opinion
 
The best thing to do with a bottle of Rodinal is put some hydrogen peroxide into the bottle, stopper it and then watch the fireworks :D:D:D:D
 
stompyq said:
Fine-grained???!!!! your joking right? Were you shooting 8x10? Becuase on 35mm it's anything but!! Rodinal was designed for high acuity. This was probably important a 100 years ago when the lens designs were primitive. Plus everyone was still shooting large format. It's absolutely archaic now. Don't even try to use it with any of the Ilford Delta and Tmax films unless you like uneven blotches. If tonality is what you're after just try the Pyro based developers. People just have this weird nostalgia for it (which is fine).Just a hipster fad in my opinion
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Used Rodinal to develop Agfapan 100 in 35mm format when I was living in Paris....Let me see if I can find the print from that film/developer combo and I'll bring it to the RFF meet. Don't think I'll be able to make the Dec one.
 
JMQ said:
Used Rodinal to develop Agfapan 100 in 35mm format when I was living in Paris....Let me see if I can find the print from that film/developer combo and I'll bring it to the RFF meet. Don't think I'll be able to make the Dec one.
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Looking forward to seeing it
 
stompyq said:
People just have this weird nostalgia for it (which is fine).Just a hipster fad in my opinion
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Or perhaps they like something different than you... and hipster fad? Jeez, the developer pre-dates hipsters by a long shot.
 
Yup it's an M-mount, and close to "pancake" size.
The hood is about 1/2 the depth of the lens itself, and the hood isn't that big..

Will post some photos this week! Landed yesterday and (incredibly poor timing on my part) have a Japanese language test tomorrow morning.. so I've not unloaded & sorted all my photos from the trip yet.

You may convince me to get the SL yet.. though I've avoided so far :-D.
The EVF is beautiful, and knowing the sensor is the Q sensor (or better), the DR @ higher ISO is quite tempting versus the M240.
Realistically with the grip & thumbs-up on the M240, I doubt there's much of a weight difference.
I just really wish they had some primes of moderate weight available for it.

Maybe an M10? Every 2 months the rumors say it will be announced in the next 2 months.... Similar to giving a "sunny with a chance of scattered showers" weather forecast.



Calzone said:
Stephen,

Looking forward to seeing this lens. I presume M-mount?

What will be surprising to many is how easy and intuitive the SL is to use. The display and VF'er are really great. Lots of fun.

Last night I was playing with my retro single coated lenses on a M-body. With film I tend to play around more and try to do experiments. With digital I tend to exploit the resolution, speed and convenience.

Another interesting and rare lens I will bring is my 35/1.8 Nikkor in LTM. The SL body alone is about the size of my Wetzlar M6 rigged out with a TA Rapidgrip and TA Rapidwinder and really is not so heavy at all. The 50 Lux "E60" I tend to use the most is a rather big and heavy lens that rivals a Noctilux in both weight and rendering. The 50 "E60" on the SL feels like a tank.

Add onto that my 58/1.2 Noct-Nikkor AIS. At F1.2 and with the added 8mm to the focal length it is a bokeh machine that has OOF that resembles that from a large format camera. When mounted on a SL the camera looks like a true "Monster." LOL.

Cal
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Stephen G said:
Yup it's an M-mount, and close to "pancake" size.
The hood is about 1/2 the depth of the lens itself, and the hood isn't that big..

Will post some photos this week! Landed yesterday and (incredibly poor timing on my part) have a Japanese language test tomorrow morning.. so I've not unloaded & sorted all my photos from the trip yet.

You may convince me to get the SL yet.. though I've avoided so far :-D.
The EVF is beautiful, and knowing the sensor is the Q sensor (or better), the DR @ higher ISO is quite tempting versus the M240.
Realistically with the grip & thumbs-up on the M240, I doubt there's much of a weight difference.
I just really wish they had some primes of moderate weight available for it.

Maybe an M10? Every 2 months the rumors say it will be announced in the next 2 months.... Similar to giving a "sunny with a chance of scattered showers" weather forecast.
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Stephen,

Part of the big deal with the SL is the processor borrowed from the Leica "S."

Another fast prime I will bring will be my Nikon 28/1.4 AF-D which is rarer than my Noct-Nikkor. This metal barreled lens with the "Pro" crinkle finish is pure evil.

A lighter 28 is the stellar Nikon 28/2.8 AIS which can be had for around $300.00. I want/need one even though I own a wonderful 28 Cron. One reasons is ergonomics: the SLR glass just is sized right.

I have a black Nikon 45/2.8P AIS that performs mucho well on the SL. The colors look like slide film "saturated."

I also got a timely invite for some event at the Leica Store on West Broadway that involves using the SL and Leica "S" glass for portraits this Friday, December 9th. that runs 12-6 PM. I will report about the experience at Sunday's Meet-Up.

I will also try to personally invite Tung who owns a 0.95 and a F1.0 Noctilux. Tung has military sniper training and is kinda deadly with focus.

Cal
 
stompyq said:
Fine-grained???!!!! your joking right? Were you shooting 8x10? Becuase on 35mm it's anything but!! Rodinal was designed for high acuity. This was probably important a 100 years ago when the lens designs were primitive. Plus everyone was still shooting large format. It's absolutely archaic now. Don't even try to use it with any of the Ilford Delta and Tmax films unless you like uneven blotches. If tonality is what you're after just try the Pyro based developers. People just have this weird nostalgia for it (which is fine).Just a hipster fad in my opinion
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Pro-Mone,

Have you tried Rodinal with slow speed films? The grain is mucho different with slow speed films.

As far as large format guys go it is still a very-very popular developer among the large format crowd which surely has high IQ and broad tonality generally s its standards.

I could see your point with fast films, but with slow speed films it actually is a fine developer.

The hypster fad that actually I believe you are caught up in is the exaggerated grain that is currently promoted by say pushing fast films with Rodinal for a very short tonal range and enhanced grain.

For some reason the slow speed films do not get their grain exaggerated. While the acutance is high (a good thing) grain remains small with the slower speed films. This is why the big boys that contact print like Rodinal as a developer. They exploit the fine grain and high acutance with slow speed films.

Cal
 
Of all those 50-58mm lenses I tested on the A7r, I could pretty much only recognize my own cheapo lenses; the OM 1.8, and the Jupiter 8. I know which images I took with the nokt nikkor, but the summiluxes and sonnar look too similar to tell apart. They all look good though.

I pulled a Wacom Cintiq pen tablet screen out of the recycling last week. A $10 investment in a power adapter has made it fully functional. I already had the stylus from my old Wacom. It makes for a nice dual monitor set up with my 24inch LaCie. I really like the functionality in Lightroom where you can use a second monitor to show a full screen version of the image you are working on.


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CNNY said:
Of all those 50-58mm lenses I tested on the A7r, I could pretty much only recognize my own cheapo lenses; the OM 1.8, and the Jupiter 8. I know which images I took with the nokt nikkor, but the summiluxes and sonnar look too similar to tell apart. They all look good though.

I pulled a Wacom Cintiq pen tablet screen out of the recycling last week. A $10 investment in a power adapter has made it fully functional. I already had the stylus from my old Wacom. It makes for a nice dual monitor set up with my 24inch LaCie. I really like the functionality in Lightroom where you can use a second monitor to show a full screen version of the image you are working on.


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Christian,

The Noct-Nikkor at F1.2 was not distinguished? I guess I know how to look for and recognize the signatures of my lenses.

To me the Noct-Nikkor wide open does not as well as the 50 Lux "E60" in the corners. Also the Noct-Nikkor has a distinct bokeh and OOF that resembles a large format shot. The 50 Lux-R "E60" has this ASPH like sharpness, even though it is not, and this kinda balance to softness that exists across the frame.

Anyways the signatures to me are recognizable and a reason to keep both lenses. Both are remarkable and beautiful, but I think I love the Leica lens most. Renders like a Noctilux, but without the fall off in the corners.

I can understand without noticing the subtle differences how things could look rather generic. It kinda is subtle, the the differences take a trained eye.

Cal
 
jsrockit said:
Beer, beer, and more beer will help me.
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John,

Drugs I say. LOL.

BTW A shot of Maggie from that high-end luxury brand call I mentioned taken by "Uncle Terry" is going to be published and used for a big ad champaign. Kaa-Ching. This is a big deal and really opens things up for Maggie. 62K followers and it seems every shot withing a day gets over 3K likes.

Another thing pending is that Maggie was contacted for a call where she already is booked. On this day she is going to travel to a conference in House-Ton, TX so she said no, but now they are trying to still book her and are willing to shoot early and limo her to the airport. Anyways things have quieted down, but my experience is that the day before her flight she might still get the call.

The big Madison Avenue gig with the huge corporation has some issues. We got the gig, but basically there are some liability and legal issues I don't feel comfortable with. When we looked at the contract, basically it seems like we already need a lawyer. Evidently this went through a very big legal department from a huge corporation. Now I see that we are not getting paid big money and are underpaid. I say double our fee.

Now the Madison Avenue agency is still negociating. I feel flattered because they specifically asked for me as the photographer, and evidently they still want us, even though we said no.

Can't really say more due to a confidentiality agreement.

Cal
 
rajmohan-fotograf said:
My modest contribution(s) cannot possibly compete with the lenses that are likely to strut the catwalk, so in beer I trust :)
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Raj,

At my age, these lenses are more interesting than the Victoria Secrets show I saw last night that took place in Paris.

Like Christian reports about all those normal lenses, all those tall, young leggy models in Long-gHer-Ray began to all look alike.

Cal
 
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