Nicca / Tower LTM Differences between early Nicca Cameras

[Calzone]

Glad I own my Tower 45/46. Otherwise I'd have some major GAS.

Cal

 

[pippy]

Thanks for the nice words.
It's funny; none of the cameras/lenses are rare/collectible/valuable yet at the same I find it to be an interesting bunch nonetheless.

I've just ordered a Canon 'hood for the 50mm f1.8 and it seems to be clip-on version with tightening screw. Is that 'normal'? I ask because the filter thread dosesn't seem to be the standard 40.5mm that I expected. But perhaps I should ask in the Canon LTM sub-forum...

I'll probably have more questions in the coming weeks/months in any case!

Pip.

 

[dourbalistar]

Thanks for the nice words.
It's funny; none of the cameras/lenses are rare/collectible/valuable yet at the same I find it to be an interesting bunch nonetheless.

I've just ordered a Canon 'hood for the 50mm f1.8 and it seems to be clip-on version with tightening screw. Is that 'normal'? I ask because the filter thread dosesn't seem to be the standard 40.5mm that I expected. But perhaps I should ask in the Canon LTM sub-forum...

I'll probably have more questions in the coming weeks/months in any case!

Pip.

Beautiful chrome collection, Pip! Unfortunately, I'm not sure the hood you ordered will fit your chrome Serenar lens, it may be for the later black barrel 50/1.8 lenses. I believe you want the Canon Series VI adapter and hood. This thread has some more details:
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49670

The Serenar 50/1.8 has 40mm filter threads, so perhaps 3rd party screw-in hood would work.
https://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/s18.html

 

[pippy]

...I'm not sure the hood you ordered will fit your chrome Serenar lens......The Serenar 50/1.8 has 40mm filter threads, so perhaps 3rd party screw-in hood would work.

Thank you very much for the compliment, dourbalistar, re: the bunch and even more so for the info you added. I believe you will be seen to be correct once the package arrives. The 40mm thread-size (which comes as a slight surprise to me!) also makes sense and, unfortunately, my naïveté is showing!

Never mind; I'm sure there will be a solution - even if I need to buy another Canon 50mm f1.8...🙂...

Pip.

 

[pippy]

Well, the 'hood arrived this morning and - surprise surprise - it fits!
My hopes were raised when I saw that the plastic filter-box which was included inside the leather case for the hood was marked '40mm'.

It's a little gem of a thing. Here are the obligatory snaps;

Pip.

 

[Calzone]

I think one cool thing about the Nicca LTM cameras is that one does not see many "in the wild."

This presents itself as novelty and displays a quirky rarity. Pretty much an undervalued camera IMHO.

Anyways I love mine. Mighty good looking.

Cal

 

[farlymac]

Unfortunately, both of my Nicca cameras (III-S, and Yashica YF) have busted shutters now. And the haze has returned on my black body Canon 50 1.8, so I'll have to clean that out again once the cameras are fixed. Sigh...it's always something around here.


PF

 

[splitimageview]

Those Canons tend to have boomerang haze. 🙂

I sent my Nicca type -3 MIOJ and some barnacks to Popflash for service. Super quick, they have an old-school tech who is retired but still loves to work on the old cameras. Might want to talk to Tony Rose at Popflash about those shutters.

 

[pippy]

...I believe you want the Canon Series VI adapter and hood...

I'll have to have a second look at the link, dourbalistar. It is entirely possible that the cased set which I bought contains the hood-unit and the adapter which were already screwed together to form the unit which clamps over the lens barrel.
The adapter part into which the hood screws has the engraving '42mm' which, obviously, marries-in with the exterior barrel dimension.
Thanks again for your input.

Pip.

 

[Calzone]

Those Canons tend to have boomerang haze. 🙂

I sent my Nicca type -3 MIOJ and some barnacks to Popflash for service. Super quick, they have an old-school tech who is retired but still loves to work on the old cameras. Might want to talk to Tony Rose at Popflash about those shutters.

S,

Thanks for the post. Good info.

They are in Thousand Oaks. Hope Tony, Alex, and all the crew are safe.

Cal

 

[dourbalistar]

I'll have to have a second look at the link, dourbalistar. It is entirely possible that the cased set which I bought contains the hood-unit and the adapter which were already screwed together to form the unit which clamps over the lens barrel.
The adapter part into which the hood screws has the engraving '42mm' which, obviously, marries-in with the exterior barrel dimension.
Thanks again for your input.

Pip.

Is there a "S-42" engraving on your hood? If so, you may have the 42mm version of this clamp on hood, which I think was designed for the later black barrel 50/1.8 LTM lenses:
http://www.mike-lee.org/scripts/camera/view.htm?id=2262

The Series VI hoods look like this, with a few separate pieces:
http://www.mike-lee.org/scripts/camera/view.htm?id=1249

This thread also has some info about the different lens hoods:
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/canon-35-2-8-lens-hood.325022/

Either way, the hood you got seems to fit just fine. 😀

 

[pippy]

Is there a "S-42" engraving on your hood? If so, you may have the 42mm version of this clamp on hood, which I think was designed for the later black barrel 50/1.8 LTM lenses...

Hmmm....not quite.
Nor does what I have look quite the same as any of the groups in the links. Similar but not identical.

Here are a couple of (very bad I'm sorry to admit) snaps which show the two parts I received;

Pip.

 

[dourbalistar]

Hmmm....not quite.
Nor does what I have look quite the same as any of the groups in the links. Similar but not identical.

Here are a couple of (very bad I'm sorry to admit) snaps which show the two parts I received;

Pip.

Well, goes to show that being an Internet expert only gets you so far... 😎 Perhaps you have a series filter adapter from a different brand, mismatched with a Canon hood? 😕

Either way, it seems to fit just fine...

 

[Peter Jennings]

I have/have had both the early and later Canon hoods and have always found the parts to be interchangeable. Currently have the S-42 hood mounted on the earlier Canon 42mm holder. The print on the outside and the width/depth of the hoods changed over time, but the series VI thread remained the same.

 

[pippy]

...Perhaps you have a series filter adapter from a different brand, mismatched with a Canon hood?

Either way, it seems to fit just fine...

The ring is certainly of Canon manufacture as seen here;

As you say; the important thing is that, through my good fortune, it was the correct model for the job in hand.

Pip.

 

[dourbalistar]

The ring is certainly of Canon manufacture as seen here;

As you say; the important thing is that, through my good fortune, it was the correct model for the job in hand.

Pip.

Well, I guess the only thing left to do is make some images with your new kit!

 

[pippy]

Absolutely!

🙂

Pip.

 

[huffmalw]

I have created a website covering all the Canon rangefinders 1935-1968 and Canon rangefinder lenses. Also there is coverage of Nicca, and pages on all the Minolta-35 cameras and their lenses. Also some other M39 rangefinders (Reid, etc.)
https://www.canonrangefinder.org/index.htm
perhaps have a look... Larry Huffman huffman@gmx.com

 

[xayraa33]

I have created a website covering all the Canon rangefinders 1935-1968 and Canon rangefinder lenses. Also there is coverage of Nicca, and pages on all the Minolta-35 cameras and their lenses. Also some other M39 rangefinders (Reid, etc.)
https://www.canonrangefinder.org/index.htm
perhaps have a look... Larry Huffman huffman@gmx.com

Great site !

I did not know how few Nicca 5L cameras were produced.

 

[huffmalw]

Nicca Rangefinders

Nicca Rangefinders

Thanks xayraa33 ! Nicca models seem difficult (for me at least) since there are so many minor variations. Solid bodies in any case. Larry