Digilux 2/Epson RD-1.....?

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Well, tomorrow I should be recieving my new Bessa R with the 35/2 First rangefinder as I've mentioned previously. Since then, I've been hacking it out with brother and brother in law via email with regards to 'new technology' ie: DSLR's. We all have been into photography for over 20 yrs. Now, I'm holding out! Getting tired of hearing how difficult it will be to keep with film. I'm really not worried... But eventually I probably would move to digital. I've researched the two cameras that hold interest. The digilux 2 and the Epson RD-1 . Does anyone here own or have personal experience with either of these? (by the time I'm ready to go digital, who know's what will be available...and cheaper) But for right now, the Epson is way cheaper and looks kinda cool. I'm sure I'm gonna want rangefinder. Tired of SLR. thanks, rob
 
ranger said:
I've researched the two cameras that hold interest. The digilux 2 and the Epson RD-1 . Does anyone here own or have personal experience with either of these? (by the time I'm ready to go digital, who know's what will be available...and cheaper) But for right now, the Epson is way cheaper and looks kinda cool. I'm sure I'm gonna want rangefinder. Tired of SLR. thanks, rob

The Epson R-D 1 is way cheaper than the Leica Digilux 2? Are you sure you didn't type that backwards? The R-D 1 is upwards of $2,500 from authorized US dealers, and that doesn't include a lens. The Digilux is less than half that, depending on where you shop.

In any case, it doesn't make much sense to compare them, since they're completely different types of cameras. The R-D 1 has an optical range/viewfinder and takes interchangeable M-mount lenses. The Digilux 2 has a non-interchangeable zoom lens, does not have an optical rangefinder, and doesn't have an optical viewfinder -- instead, it has an LCD "electronic viewfinder." In other words, shooting with the R-D 1 is a lot like shooting with your Bessa, whereas shooting with the Digilux is not. It's really more of a posh point-and-shoot, albeit with a lot of manual controls.

Maybe what you're thinking of is the allegedly forthcoming Leica "Digital M," which (according to specs Leica has announced) will be a true optical-rangefinder camera taking interchangeable lenses.

There's no point in sweating it now, though, because so far Leica hasn't yet released a prototype (all those "photos" you may have seen on line are actually PhotoShopped collages) and probably won't until the big German Photokina trade show in September.

And as you astutely point out, if it takes a while before you want to get into digital RF photography, there's no telling what will be available. I wouldn't count on it getting much cheaper than what an R-D 1 costs, though -- rangefinder cameras are "boutique" items that aren't produced in large enough quantities for economies of scale to kick in. I suspect that whatever digital RF cameras we see in the future, if any, will be developed in the direction of better specs at the same, or higher, price point -- rather than the current specs at lower price points.
 
You're right JLW, i got the prices reversed! Well, I 'm just gonna take my sweet time and enjoy the Bessa....starting tomorrow!!!! YEE HAWWW!!! I'll sweat the small stuff another year. Thanks. Oh, I'm gonna want to buy a scanner. The reviews i read on konica/minolta say they stick alot. any recomendations? Will be doing mostly b/w. Rob
 
Hrm. First rangefinder. Next will be your first development tank...then your first bulk roller because you use too much film...then your SECOND rangefinder because you find yourself needing two focal lengths on your outings...

Right? Right. 😀
 
Stephanie Brim said:
Hrm. First rangefinder. Next will be your first development tank...then your first bulk roller because you use too much film...then your SECOND rangefinder because you find yourself needing two focal lengths on your outings...

Hey, Stephanie, did you know that you can change the lens during photography sessions? You don't actually need a separate camera body for every lens you own... 😀
 
sorry stephanie, already have all that stuff from the previous 20 years of developing/bulk loading/processing b/w. just never had a rangefinder. now i just want a scanner and fore-go the darkroom. what do you think? yes?
 
My "always have it with me" camera? Bessa R, with the 35 Color Skopar. When I want to be sure I get the shot, when I want to pack along my best stuff, I carry my Digilux 2. I don't have a problem with the EVF. Anyone who has used this camera knows what a fine camera it is. I've got at least 50 shooters, and when the time comes to cut the nut, I pull out the Digilux.
 
Krasnaya_Zvezda said:
Anyone who has used this camera knows what a fine camera it is. I've got at least 50 shooters, and when the time comes to cut the nut, I pull out the Digilux.

Same here but with the R-D1. I have a Bessa R and a CL and an M2 but it's the R-D1 that goes with me everywhere. When I have to choose, it's the R-D1 on number 1.

I think you can't go wrong with either the D-lux or the R-D1. IMO it would be best to get your hands on both before you buy and see which one you personally prefer.
 
Digilux2 A super and fun camera! Look at my gallery for the VERY good results. Most users recon the Digilux2 and the RD1 for that matter are far more film-like in their results than any DSLR. The Digilux2 has by far the best white-balance in the digital world and arguably the best short zoom on the market, the RD1 has of course the endless possibilities of the Leica,Zeiss and CV range of lenses and the full RF feel.
 
Ranger, I'm switching from SRL to RF also with a Bessa R. I'm also interested in both RD-1 or Digilux 2, because they both seem real camera and not special hi-tech "misterious" object. If my money income would be unlimited (or near!) i had already bought. At this stage I think it s a little too early. I enjoy most of possible my film camera and the film scanner ! ciao, rob&rt
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I'm using a Canon scan FS 2710 (2700 dpi) wich is enough for me at the moment. Planning to go to a Minolta or Nikon in future because I'm aiming to B&W digital prints, but not sure yet. I have seen some good digitsl prints.
 
ranger said:
robert blu....which scanner do you use? I still need to decide on one. Anyone can jump in here and give me suggestions. rob

I use a Canon FS4000 (discontinued) because that's what I have. It produces good quality, but is very slow.

This is important if you shoot a lot (as I do) because scanning then quickly becomes the bottleneck in your workflow. One of the reasons I mostly shoot digital now is that I simply don't have time to do all the scanning plus the image corrections that every digital image always needs. I might be able to shoot more film and less digital if I had a faster scanner.

On the other hand, if you mostly follow a model of editing your shots carefully and then picking out a few really good ones for scanning, a slow scanner might not hurt you.
 
jaapv said:
Digilux2 A super and fun camera!...The Digilux2 has by far the best white-balance in the digital world and arguably the best short zoom on the market...

I concur on all points, and also an excellent meter (I love the spot-meter). I am not bothered by the EVF either, and prefer it to the LCD for shooting.

🙂
 
RayPA said:
I concur on all points, and also an excellent meter (I love the spot-meter). I am not bothered by the EVF either, and prefer it to the LCD for shooting.

🙂

I'm with you on all points here; I don't ever shoot with the LCD either.
 
Why get a Digilux-2? The Panasonic DMC-LC1 is the same camera, is cheaper, comes with more accessories that are extra cost on the Digilux and has the ergonomic grip.
The only thing missing is a red dot.

Peter
 
peterc said:
Why get a Digilux-2? The Panasonic DMC-LC1 is the same camera, is cheaper, comes with more accessories that are extra cost on the Digilux and has the ergonomic grip.
The only thing missing is a red dot.

Peter

I couldn't find the Panasonic anywhere when I got my Digilux (a year ago). I'm a Panasonic fan. I got the wife a DMC FZ20 for her b-day last year.

🙂
 
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