Digital Canon RF...

I doubt if Canon will go down that track and is one reason why I recently purchased an Olympus E-PL1 (4/3 digital) with adapters so I can use my M39 lens and others that I own. Canon have diverted at times when a system seems to be taking of, such as the Canonex (leaf shutter) and some models which used the Agfa rapid system. They never were a sales success and Canon got burnt a bit market wise but these oddities are quite rare these days. Canon does tend to hold back on issuing a new format and let the other manufactures bring out models and if they think it they can make a buck out of will hit the market with a whammo. Same reason why it really would surprise me if they went down the retro model track like some other manufactures has done. Just an observation. Peter
 
ruby.monkey,

Take a deep breath and just go with the fun of the speculation...or sit this one out.
 
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They are just utterly lacking in vision. Sure they make nice DSLRs----who can friggin carry them?

P&S fine for what they are.

I just cannot believe they let the M9 stand as the only small full frame camera.

all tech is in place for a M9 killer. Canon made it's name chasing leica in the 50s, as did nikon.

Lessons unlearned.
 
uhoh7 said:
They are just utterly lacking in vision. Sure they make nice DSLRs----who can friggin carry them?

P&S fine for what they are.

I just cannot believe they let the M9 stand as the only small full frame camera.

all tech is in place for a M9 killer. Canon made it's name chasing leica in the 50s, as did nikon.

Lessons unlearned.
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That was 60 years ago.
Today, I doubt Canon (or Nikon for that matter) really feels like it needs to look to Leica for any sort of guidance on camera direction. Maybe if it hadn't taken Leica so very long to get into the digital game, things would be different.
But today, Canon and Nikon dominate photography. Everyone else is looking for a niche.
 
I do not see Canon or anyone else coming out with full-frame Digital Rangefinder camera to compete with the Leica M9.

Canon has not made an Interchangeable Lens rangefinder since the 1960s. Nikon made the S3-2000 and SP-2005 to celebrate their heritage. Canon did not feel compelled to reintroduce a Canon P-2000. At least Nikon renewed it's ability to make a rangefinder camera, but did not team with anyone to make an Digital SP. If they did, I would own a Digital SP now. But with reality what it is, my digital S-Mount rangefinder is the Leica M9 with an Amedeo Adapter.

Do not underestimate the work that went into making the KAF-18500 to pull off the full-frame M9. Solving the angle of acceptance issue with rangefinder lenses, and the creation of an efficient and thin IR absorbing filter was non-trivial. These are the advances that made the M9 possible.
 
I just cannot believe they let the M9 stand as the only small full frame camera
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Why not? This 'full frame' nonsense is important to... what? One tenth of one percent of the digicam-buying public? Less? I'd guess that the vast majority is happy with, and probably better served by, smaller sensors in smaller and cheaper bodies.
 
I think the obsession with wanting another full frame rangefinder on the market is running out of steam. I think people always clamor for what they can't have ... and if Zeiss or someone did build a full fram RF it wouldn't sell in sufficient quantity to justify the exercise.

Leica have got this niche all to themselves for as long as they want it IMO.
 
The full-frame aspect of the M9 is important to anyone that wants to use lenses made over the last 80 years for the Leica camera as intended- full-frame, RF coupled, and without IR cut filters. The same reason why Nikon came out with a full-frame F-Mount digital camera that can use lenses dating back to 1952. That would be the Nikkor 25cm F4, using an N->F adapter. If I pick up a D3 or D700, I'll have to try it. I have the N->F adapter on it now.
 
I doubt Canon will do anything. They aren't a company that looks back. Once it drops a system, that's it. RF, FD mount, film cameras, etc.

In fact, I would put Canon at the bottom of the list when it comes to releasing a rangefinder system for any medium.
 
Anyone who thinks a FF short register body, with an M9 form factor or smaller, capable of accepting all the glass, priced under 2.5K, would not sell out---well they are nuts. 🙂

Such a product will dominate conversation about high end digtal cameras. That alone is worth 100 million in marketing.

Look at the fuss over the x100, a camera 1/100th as versatile.

Canon is blind. How long did those brick sized cell phones last?

In this century the law is innovate or die. The M9 has saved leica. If that's not proof of concept, I don't know what is.

@contarama: I was hoping nikon would do it this spring, but the latest rumours say the new EVIL will have a small sensor.
 
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uhoh7 said:
Anyone who thinks a FF short register body, with an M9 form factor or smaller, capable of accepting all the glass, priced under 2.5K, would not sell out---well they are nuts. 🙂

Such a product will dominate conversation about high end digtal cameras. That alone is worth 100 million in marketing.

Look at the fuss over the x100, a camera 1/100th as versatile.

Canon is blind. How long did those brick sized cell phones last?

In this century the law is innovate or die. The M9 has saved leica. If that's not proof of concept, I don't know what is.
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I don't really see the M9 as innovative sorry. Just a progression from film to digital while maintaining form at the cost of some function. Not that I'm saying it's not a great camera because it is IMO.

Not that I blame Leica though because their last attempt at real innovation cost them dearly with the M5. 😱
 
Keith said:
I don't really see the M9 as innovative sorry. Just a progression from film to digital while maintaining form at the cost of some function. Not that I'm saying it's not a great camera because it is IMO.

Not that I blame Leica though because their last attempt at real innovation cost them dearly with the M5. 😱
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Lecia did the big thing: put the sensor in there, and left out all the little ones, video, good LCD, 7FPS, etc.

add those and you are really talking.
 
uhoh7 said:
Lecia did the big thing: put the sensor in there, and left out all the little ones, video, good LCD, 7FPS, etc.

add those and you are really talking.
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And to stay in the game they may just have to add those things ... but then again a lot of people would react by saying it's no longer a 'real' Leica! 😀
 
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