Disposable film cameras at presidential debate?

[hepcat]

That's tremendous ... what a beautiful way to take photos! :angel:

Just a warning, Keith... the next guy I hear that uses "tremendous" in a sentence is going to end up in a violent confrontation. Apparently that's the only adjective one of our candidates owns... and frankly, I'm sick of hearing it (and him.) So... you've been warned. <grin>

Roger 😉

 

[hepcat]

In Europe, people are very interested in what's going to happen, since the EU and US have quite the common relationship. Things like TTIP, trans-Atlantic trade, science and NATO are instantly related to the course the next US president will plot for his/her term of presidency.

But maybe that's less the case for Australia

Unfortunately, I think that the US electorate is so ill-informed these days, I have serious doubts that many of us could even find Europe on a map, much less tell you much about it or how our political system affects the global economy or politics. It's a shame.

I'm watching the GBP's value agains the USD closely. I suspect that much of the electorate in England really didn't understand the ramifications of Brexit before they voted either. We're in the same boat with our presidential elections here. Our choices this time amount to a blow-hard with no political or foreign-policy experience; who has no integrity at all; and who panders to a lowest-common-denominator populist crowd, or a candidate who is intelligent, qualified, and has experience but who also has questionable integrity. We're in a sad state of affairs here, and I have NO idea how that bodes for the world economy or security.

I was out camping last week off-grid and I wanted to find out what the general reaction was in Europe to the milieu and happenings here. I tried to find the BBC on a shortwave radio and couldn't. I was appalled to later find that the BBC stopped broadcasting to the Americas on shortwave frequencies some years ago when they picked up some NPR stations and, of course, internet streaming.

Wish us well. We need it.

 

[ChrisPlatt]

after the cameras are disposed, can we dispose the candidates?

And half of the electorate, too?

Chris

 

[oftheherd]

Politics aside this has put the superbowl to shame. Australia is fascinated! 😛

Unfortunately many of us in the USA are more appalled.

after the cameras are disposed, can we dispose the candidates?

Good one! Made me laugh.

Unfortunately, I think that the US electorate is so ill-informed these days, I have serious doubts that many of us could even find Europe on a map, much less tell you much about it or how our political system affects the global economy or politics. It's a shame.

I'm watching the GBP's value agains the USD closely. I suspect that much of the electorate in England really didn't understand the ramifications of Brexit before they voted either. We're in the same boat with our presidential elections here. Our choices this time amount to a blow-hard with no political or foreign-policy experience; who has no integrity at all; and who panders to a lowest-common-denominator populist crowd, or a candidate who is intelligent, qualified, and has experience but who also has questionable integrity. We're in a sad state of affairs here, and I have NO idea how that bodes for the world economy or security.

I was out camping last week off-grid and I wanted to find out what the general reaction was in Europe to the milieu and happenings here. I tried to find the BBC on a shortwave radio and couldn't. I was appalled to later find that the BBC stopped broadcasting to the Americas on shortwave frequencies some years ago when they picked up some NPR stations and, of course, internet streaming.

Wish us well. We need it.

I think you are to kind to the distaff side of our choices. I find her vicious and without integrity, not just questionable. But I guess you see something in her I don't.

Unfortunately, for me, it is a choice of which one is the least problematic. I don't know if I should follow Senator McCain and vote for someone other than the 'two' or try and pick the one which I hope would do the least damage.

Indeed wish us well. Pray for us if you are so inclined.

 

[Roger Hicks]

And half of the electorate, too?

Chris

Dear Chris,

Quite a long way below half, I suspect, when the votes are counted.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Spanik]

I fear you'll be surprised...

 

[hepcat]

I think you are to kind to the distaff side of our choices. I find her vicious and without integrity, not just questionable.

It would be my most ardent wish to have a competent third party candidate for whom I could vote. That would solve our dilemma easily.

It's a complicated task separating the partisan-driven hype from the facts. I have met her personally during the '08 campaign, and I, myself, find her just not to be a very likable person. That aside, she's not as evil as Breitbart would have us believe, neither is she as blameless as her campaign suggests. The truth, elusive as it may be, lies somewhere in the middle. Nor does my dislike of her mean I don't think she could perform the duties of the office.

What has been lost in many instances on both sides is context. Both sides want to take incidents out of context, frame them in a new context of their own making and say that the candidate is a horrible person. One candidate, through the actions and context of 40 years of questionable deals and inhumane actions IS, as near as I can determine, a person without empathy. The other did some questionable things that made perfect sense in the context of when and where they happened... but taken outside that context and placed in another, cause a person to pause. And frankly, in a forty year legal and political career one is bound to make some decisions that, in retrospect, they wouldn't make the same way a second time. At least they were making decisions in and for government... something the other irredemable candidate can't claim he was doing.

Having worked in government all MY adult life and being a manager the last twenty years of my career, I made decisions that the public didn't like, but that were in line with law, and current best practices. I am the Devil incarnate to this day to some of my former constituents because they didn't understand the context under which those decisions were made; they put them in their own, unrelated context.

So, I don't necessarily see anything more redeeming about the second candidate per se... it may just be that I better understand the context in which some of the things she's accused of doing were done.

 

[NeeZee]

Having worked in government all MY adult life and being a manager the last twenty years of my career, I made decisions that the public didn't like, but that were in line with law, and current best practices. I am the Devil incarnate to this day to some of my former constituents because they didn't understand the context under which those decisions were made; they put them in their own, unrelated context.

Hmm, that comes across as slightly conceited if you ask me. Maybe you didn't understand the context under which they were influenced by your decisions?

Whatever - has anyone developed any photos, yet?

 

[Bill Clark]

Color film or black and white?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/co...ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876,89827194362,&A=details&Q=

 

[Huss]

Whatever - has anyone developed any photos, yet?

I'm actually looking forward to the results from the cameras!

 

[hepcat]

Hmm, that comes across as slightly conceited if you ask me. Maybe you didn't understand the context under which they were influenced by your decisions?

No, and frankly I'm upset at them both because of that.

However, no, I don't recall asking you. <grin>

ON EDIT:

Ok, those were both said tongue-in-cheek. One of the great strengths (and weaknesses) of the Internet age is that everyone has a voice, and that voice seems to be of equal value with every other voice. That's just not the case, but that does make it difficult sometimes to differentiate arrogance and conceit from self-confidence that comes from experience.

If you'd like to continue this off-thread, I'd be more than happy to chat with you through pm.

 

[pepeguitarra]

Debate?

Debate?

Was there a debate? Where, who, when, why?:bang:

 

[hepcat]

Was there a debate? Where, who, when, why?:bang:

Not really, no. It was billed as a debate, but was really more of gudge match... or re-match. The voters were the losers.

 

[sepiareverb]

Not really, no. It was billed as a debate, but was really more of gudge match... or re-match. The voters were the losers.

Ain't that the truth. Pathetic that the election has become a reality TV show at best, when it simply isn't a tabloid.