do you celebrate?

russelljtdyer said:
This year I'm doing nothing.

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It's kind of nice.
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Charlie Brown would be proud. Lovely tree, just needed love.
 
raid said:
My two little girls still debate about Santa and his address at the North Pole. We have a Christmas tree and our children celebrate Christmas. Jesus has an important place in Islam, and as long as the children are happy, we celebrate the holidays season. When I was a little boy, we lived in Germany, and we had each year a Christmas tree with ornaments, and we received gifts. "No harm done" .....



Frohe Weihnachten!


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Many thanks, Raid, I was hoping we'd get to see the girls today.
 
Ducky,

So sorry for your loss. As Paul says you are being help up in light and love.

Be well.

Bob
 
They are now playing Wii Mario. It was the best gift ever since that's all they really love playing with today.

Enjoy a relaxing weekend.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Dear Greg,

Thanks very much for the detailed analysis. I had of course encountered the date of September 28th, and I was well aware of the likelihood that Jesus was born 'B.C.', which as Cecil of The Straight Dope observed, "was a good trick, but hey, this was no ordinary dude." (I quote from memory). Even so I was not aware of this particular computerised derivation.

It does however depend on trusting the Revelation of St. John the Divine, which was written (at the very least) a decade or two after Jesus's demise and quite possibly half a century later, and I would not put it past some scribe to have 'improved' the story at some point, not least to make it match the holy day.

In other words, it's the best we've got, but it still ain't quite up there with a birth certificate. Even so, as I say, thanks for the analysis.

Cheers,

R.
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A birth cirtificate might indeed be helpful. Our calanders differ so much I wouldn't totally agree with Sept. 28th. One thing I do agree on is he was born during this feast day. I also find it facinating that Virgo falls between Leo & Libra. The lion & the scales. The jewish people at that time was looking for the coming King but came as a Lamb instead. He humbly gave his life for us but the 2nd time he comes will be as the lion & the scales. Our King & Judge.

But like the rest of the world I celebrate on Dec. 25th. It's not the date that is really important, Just the fact that he came! Cheers to you & Francis this day & every day.:)
 
gb hill said:
But like the rest of the world I celebrate on Dec. 25th. It's not the date that is really important, Just the fact that he came! Cheers to you & Francis this day & every day.:)
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Well, most of the world: not Russia, Ethiopia, Macedonia, Ukraine... (January 7th). But if you're a Christian it is hard to argue with the highlighted portion.

A lovely line from Sir Terry Pratchett, put into the mouth of one of his characters: "Either all days are holy, or none is." (From memory)

Cheers to you and yours,

R. (+F).
 
Richard G said:
I've just been to the choral mass of our main Catholic cathedral. I think they must be using a new form of incense: it was like a movie where the tech guys had lost control. No-one except hundreds of the congregation coughing and fanning themselves seemed to notice. I was surprised that the guy holding the thurible didn't pass out. Then the archbishop's sermon was all over the place, multiple ideas interspersed with platitudes and no useful cogent message. Then there's the New Liturgy English speaking Catholics have to get used to. Astonishingly they have introduce the word 'consubstantial' into the creed. I think I might look for a nice Latin mass. My father always said it's the song not the singer, but now the song is off. The cathedral itself and the 2000 years of tradition and my long history with faith and the deeper aspects of it that I have been privileged to learn and think about in the company of wiser heads than mine mean that the I will never throw it in but will spend a lot of time apparently at the margin of Catholicism. Sic transit gloria mundi.
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Ditto to everything except the incense. I spent too much time at Mass being distracted by the new language. It's odd and, as far as I'm concerned, interferes with worship. The odd thing is that it all made sense in Latin, even 'consubstantial' and 'under my roof'. What the heck were they thinking?
 
... and with that finished we are celebrating the secular aspects of the holiday season - family, friends, and a wonderful feast.
 
Hmmm... well, I am not Catholic but I admire and respect Catholicism and am finding it difficult to see traditions being changed.

Sometimes change is not good... just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

Nice to hear from someone of faith sharing their thoughts on Christmas rather than dwelling on the secular part all the time. Thanks for sharing.:angel:
 
Greetings to all and condolences to Dickie . It's many a year since I attended Mass other than for weddings and funerals. Instead I amuse myself by contemplating suitable punishments for whoever had the bright idea to jettison about a millenium of sacred music by amateurs like Mozart and that ilk and substitute happy,happy,clappy.clappy trash. I still mentally croak
Adeste Fideleswhen all around sing O comme all ye faithful. The only exception for me is the Irish mass,even though I don't speak Irish. It has the authenticity in the music of antiquity.
 
dave lackey said:
Hmmm... well, I am not Catholic but I admire and respect Catholicism and am finding it difficult to see traditions being changed.

Sometimes change is not good... just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

Nice to hear from someone of faith sharing their thoughts on Christmas rather than dwelling on the secular part all the time. Thanks for sharing.:angel:
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Dave, it is an interesting change. A change from native language that is understandable to a direct translation of Latin. It really is very literal translation of a language that defies literal translation.

But here's the worst part. The new words don't fit the old tunes... so at our parish (and I assume others) they simply cram the new words into the old music. At one time it was said that Vatican II killed music in the Catholic church. This most recent change seems to have beaten the dead horse even deader (to re-use the old expression).

What was almost comical to watch were the people who only come to church on holidays. Some of them looked like they just landed on Mars and didn't know where they were. That always happens, but with the new liturgy it was an even more perplexed look on their faces.
 
Someone once joked that " I am not so much a pillar of the church, but rather a butress!" For those who know architecture butresses are always found on the outside of buildings.......................................................................
 
Gumby said:
reel-to-reel... really? Do you still use it?
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This was the top model by Akai. I used it until we moved to this house less than two years ago. I insisted on only buying furniture (entertainment center) if it could house the Akai. It took use some time until we found a center that had opening large enough to hold the amazing reel to reel Akai. I will make it play again.
 
Gumby said:
Dave, it is an interesting change. A change from native language that is understandable to a direct translation of Latin. It really is very literal translation of a language that defies literal translation.

But here's the worst part. The new words don't fit the old tunes... so at our parish (and I assume others) they simply cram the new words into the old music. At one time it was said that Vatican II killed music in the Catholic church. This most recent change seems to have beaten the dead horse even deader (to re-use the old expression).

What was almost comical to watch were the people who only come to church on holidays. Some of them looked like they just landed on Mars and didn't know where they were. That always happens, but with the new liturgy it was an even more perplexed look on their faces.
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Good grief...what or who caused this change and for what reason? Seems to be a hard pill to swallow if the words and the music are not in sync!:eek:

Makes it that much tougher to celebrate, let alone worship and grow the membership.:confused:
 
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