Do you suffer from P.M.S?

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Photographic Malaise Syndrome.

I've been seeing a lot of threads about how some of us are;

unhappy or unsatisfied with our photography

It can be both emotional or technical based.

At times I feel I'm not where I want to be in regards to my photography. Even though, to myself, it may not seem like I'm doing much, upon closer inspection... I am. I am shooting a lot, learning from my mistakes and always trying to get better. ...but never satisfied. Which leads to the "Why am I doing it, What is my goal?" questions.

PMS doesn't last forever, it does go away after a short time, you get that shot that makes you smile and say "YES!" but rest assured, it will come back.


Sound reasonable?

John
 
Yes, I am suffering from it now, however it could be that I just don't seem to have any time to really relax and shoot. I just go 'through the motions' and maybe that's why I am somewhat disappointed in the results?

Some of my favorite shots have been taken when I have been fully relaxed and just going out to shoot to enjoy the experience, not because I feel that it's something that I should be doing even though I am not really in the mood to do it.
 
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I tend to get it big time when I delve too long into all the not-so-good images that I have. I spent years getting a really good portfolio that I showed to lots of people, and that was really interesting and the best antidote to this.

The past year I have left that style, and instead started to do experiments in all directions - just like when I started with photography 20-25 years ago. This is rewarding in some ways, but also depressing as long as I do no distill the images into proper projects!

The cure for me, is to have a glance at the images I have that I know are really good. After a typical session of dredging for possible interesting things in all those folders of old, now scanned, stuff, I go through others that are better.

Distilling, throwing away or sorting away what is not good, is the key to both learn - and get more optimistic!
 
My answer - as now purely a hobbyist photographer, is to have another hobby that often runs in parallell with photography. I appreciate that as I am retired, I probably have a lot more spare time than most, but all my life have had a passion for model making, and being an engineer have my own little machine shop, with lathe, milling machines etc. So if photographic inspiration is a bit lacking, I just retreat to my shop and get absorbed in one of my long-term projects ( the last live-steam loco I built, took nearly three years! ).
After a while, cabin-fever sets in, and I go out shooting again - with renewed vigour!🙂
Cheers, Dave.
 
Yes. I was suffering from PMS when I chanced on RFF. I was missing something that I couldn't get/find with a DSLR, but then I found a renewed interest.

Now I have a lot more to learn and a lot more to study. Rangefinders force me to slow down and think about what I'm doing. I am not noticeably better as a photographer than I was before (as a matter few fact I think I'm a lot worse in some ways) but at least I'm happy.
 
Indeed - but mine was caused by digital...

Indeed - but mine was caused by digital...

I realized that while my equipment was getting much "better" (after many years of shooting 35mm SLRs I went from a D70 and then to a D300) I was taking far fewer photos and enjoying it a lot less. I found myself taking *way* too many pictures of brick walls and a particular tree-lined street among other test targets and practically no photos of anything interesting except when on camping trips (and even then, I was taking less photos than ever and of those I did take, the vast majority never got post-processed as when I looked at the NEF preview, they were not “good enough”). I spent so much time worrying about WB, DR, EC and blown highlights and whatnot, I just couldn’t seem to “let go” and take a picture like I used to. Consequently my photos of late (and by that I mean for at least a year) had become progressively more “sterile” and lacking in anything actually interesting or emotional (however they are definitely sharper, better exposed, etc.) I really started to wonder what had happened to my “eye”, that I was now apparently incapable of taking a meaningful picture.

Then late last year I made the momentous decision to leave the D300 at home and take only my 22 year old Minolta X-700 and a couple of lenses and shoot film for a semester. One of the best things about that (IMO) is that since I have no control over the film itself (other than choosing which one to use, as I send it away for processing and scanning) I am totally removed from that entire part of the image-taking process, which is a big change from the intensive involvement I have with DSLR photography – I suspect a bit too intensive at times. I seemed to have developed almost a “love-hate” relationship with digital photography; I love the control I have over every single step of the process, but at the same time I hate the fact that having that level of control appeared to have overcome (swamped) my creative side (and I didn't have real lot of creativity to begin with so you can see the problem!) It had reached the point where unless I thought the weather and lighting and scenery and everything was going to be *great* I wouldn't even take the camera out of the bag (in fact it was worse than that; I wouldn't even leave the house unless I thought the odds are really good that I will be presented with a scene “worthy of the D300”). And so on.


But what a revelation getting back to film has been for me! Being freed from the almost limitless choices of digital, and presented with only focus, aperture and shutter speed seemed to make a tremendous difference to how I felt about photography. Especially when I started shooting in B&W. This led to buying an X-570 as a backup body (which thanks to its VF display of shutter speed in manual mode turned out to be even more useful than the X-700) and most recently an M6 TTL which is currently in for a CLA (and to check out what looks like a dragging shutter). Adjusting to using the RF was a lot easier than I expected but despite having a really good lens (Zeiss 35 C Biogon) I have not been really happy with the results so far. Perhaps the extra contrast of the Biogon is a bit much compared to the look I was used to (and really liked) from the old Minolta lenses. Than again if the shutter is dragging it may be underexposing which would account for a lot. But I digress...

Sorry for the long-winded post, but I think the point is, if you're stuck in a rut photographically speaking, maybe you need to try something totally different for a while and see if that reignites the spark!

Regards,
Scott
 
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SSMC, try cutting the ISO on your meter half a stop and that will give you more negative density. If the Zeiss is too contrasty for your tastes then sell it. Buy a used Rokkor. At any rate do your own exposure tests to zero in on the correct ISO for you, your camera, and metering style. If the shutter is dragging it'll OVERexpose.
 
Scott, your post is in white font, and it is difficult for me to read that. Al's post suggests that there may be something of value there, but I would suggest that in the future you just let the forum software decide what color to make your post, so it is appropriate for anyone's "skin" for the forum. Then we can all benefit!

Thanks.
 
We used to call this "the block". Meaning we were blocked from producing new work.

I have been "blocked" since last December, but I used 12/08 through 6/09 to get some work into galleries. But I am feeling bad that I haven't produced anything. In fact I have hardly even pushed the button in the last 9 months or so. My Intersections series has been the exception, but imo, it's weak.

I'll probably cruise through the holidays (cause I have lots of familial obligations) but starting 1/2/10, I want to catch fire! I'm enrolling in a creative photography course just to give me a May deadline for a major project. I mean, if that's what it takes, I'll do it!

The Block: it happens to us all, but shouldn't be allowed that much importance. It's just a temporary state, which can be easily overcome.
 
SSMC, try cutting the ISO on your meter half a stop and that will give you more negative density. If the Zeiss is too contrasty for your tastes then sell it. Buy a used Rokkor. At any rate do your own exposure tests to zero in on the correct ISO for you, your camera, and metering style. If the shutter is dragging it'll OVERexpose.

Hi Al,

I tried that, and shooting a controlled sequence of shots of fairly static subjects with different EC and filters was what finally revealed a probable shutter issue - the right hand side of many of the photos was noticeably darker than the rest of the image, a similar (but less severe) version of a sticking shutter that I experienced with my SLRs after a few years of non-use.

Having compared some of my recent shots side-by-side against my SLR B&W's I think it is partly just a different "look" that I need to get used to. And to stick to Tri-X which seems to suit this combo (and my taste) better than HP5+ which is what I initially shot in it.

Regards,
Scott
 
Scott, your post is in white font, and it is difficult for me to read that. Al's post suggests that there may be something of value there, but I would suggest that in the future you just let the forum software decide what color to make your post, so it is appropriate for anyone's "skin" for the forum. Then we can all benefit!

Thanks.

Hi Chris,

Sorry about that. I composed it elsewhere and cut'n'pasted but it came out in illegibly tiny black TNR. When I selected Verdana and changed the color I didn't realize I picked white instead of gray. I edited it and hope it's okay now. Is there a way to get the default color back without deleting and re-typing the whole thing?

Regards,
Scott
 
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At times I feel I'm not where I want to be in regards to my photography. Even though, to myself, it may not seem like I'm doing much, upon closer inspection... I am. I am shooting a lot, learning from my mistakes and always trying to get better. ...but never satisfied. Which leads to the "Why am I doing it, What is my goal?" questions.
John

I think if you want to get past the level you currently are at you need to make a concerted effort. Either studying with someone, taking a class or workshop or just doing it on your own you need to challenge yourself, your assumption and how you see the world...
 
After suffering with it for nearly a year, I'm beginning to recover. I think that a large part of my dissatisfaction was equipment related. I'd been shooting mostly digital for the last five years and at first was excited about learning new technology and improving my basic photographic skills with digital's instant feedback, versatility and access to a virtually unlimited supply of "film."

But after a few years I grew increasingly disenchanted with digital and with lugging around a huge, cumbersome DSLR. I had also gradually developed the habit of taking hundreds of exposures without discrimination or sufficient thought, what some have called the "machine gun" approach to photography. After a while, I had to force myself to get out and shoot, and often came home with memory cards full of dull, uninspired images.

It was at this low point in my photographic journey that I began to gravitate back to film and discovered the OM1 and OM2 through posts on this forum. Something about the OM's captured my imagination. I found an OM1 and an OM2 with a 28/2 and a 50/1.4 and they just seemed to fit. I'm enjoying using great prime lenses and zooming with my feet. I'm forced to slow down just a bit and to more carefully consider the shot, the exposure, the framing, which lens to use - all the basics - and I love the look of film. I'm excited about photography again!

I've started using a TLR now too, a cheap Lubitel, and find that very liberating as well. I love the square format and composing using the reversed image on a ground glass screen, and though I love street photography, I've always been a bit timid about pointing a huge DSLR at people. The TLR allows me to be more unobtrusive and people who do notice the camera often start up a conversation instead of giving me dirty looks or being outright hostile. I've enjoyed the TLR experience so much that I just ordered a Rolleiflex Baby Gray from Collectible Cameras, and a few dozen rolls of 127 film. I can hardly wait for it to arrive.

Though I learned quite a bit from digital, I sold my DSLR and lenses and I'm very happy that I've gone back to film. I'm absolutely in love with my Olympus SLR's and the TLR. Now I'm challenging myself with more projects and enjoying photography more than ever.

I spend every lunch hour, weather permitting, walking around downtown taking photographs. Some days I concentrate on bicycles, others on architecture, or maybe lovers, delivery men or street vendors, something, anything. I usually do some kind of self-assigned project, large or small. Sometimes a small project turns into a larger one; sometimes a large one breaks down into one or more smaller projects or is abandoned altogether as being impractical or too poorly defined, but either way, projects instill a bit of discipline and force me to focus my efforts. I find that constraining myself in this way actually liberates me, allowing me to concentrate and do better work.

I do feel that once you've found your medium, your preferred tools and methods, that defining goals and assigning yourself some kind of project is the next step to breaking out of the malaise - coming out of darkness and into the light! At least it seems to have worked for me. Of course that isn't to say that it won't happen again. It's probably one of the main insigators of GAS attacks!
 
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