bizarrius
the great
I put my nokton on Ebay for sale
(probably because im stupid and i thought that it would sell easier than in here)
in a rather low price (600 GBP) and my item was sold in 10 hours by a buyer that has 0 feedback.
I haven't received payment (its been 30-45 minutes, i know i am rushing) but i'm thinking that it is someone that doesn't want me to sell my lens that low.
any help? is this a usual scam? (i call it scam because i pay for listings ) should i report it?
discuss please :/
(probably because im stupid and i thought that it would sell easier than in here)
in a rather low price (600 GBP) and my item was sold in 10 hours by a buyer that has 0 feedback.
I haven't received payment (its been 30-45 minutes, i know i am rushing) but i'm thinking that it is someone that doesn't want me to sell my lens that low.
any help? is this a usual scam? (i call it scam because i pay for listings ) should i report it?
discuss please :/
JayGannon
Well-known
45 minutes? Give it at least 24 hours, we don't all sit at computers all day 
antiquark
Derek Ross
If it's actually worth more, he might just re-sell it at a higher price.
You might be able to cancel the sale:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090904194159AAgqnkP
If you do sell it to him, make sure you use fully insured, registered, signed, verified, etc shipping. There have been stories of people shipping stuff with inadequate verification, and losing their money.
You might be able to cancel the sale:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090904194159AAgqnkP
If you do sell it to him, make sure you use fully insured, registered, signed, verified, etc shipping. There have been stories of people shipping stuff with inadequate verification, and losing their money.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Non-payment after a half an hour? Gosh I didn't know that was grounds for a complaint.
Many ebay bids are auto generated while the buyers are sleeping, eating, or otherwise engaged in some meaningful activity. Patience, patience.
Many ebay bids are auto generated while the buyers are sleeping, eating, or otherwise engaged in some meaningful activity. Patience, patience.
bizarrius
the great
No no my point is that he has 0 feedback.
0 sales 0 buys. brand new account.
I can wait a few hours, but i'm worried about his feedback.
how would i lose my money antiquark? ask that he haven't received the lens and get his money back?
0 sales 0 buys. brand new account.
I can wait a few hours, but i'm worried about his feedback.
how would i lose my money antiquark? ask that he haven't received the lens and get his money back?
JayGannon
Well-known
But your the seller how will you lose out at all?
Payment is sent by paypal.. document the package, with photos of you boxing it, send it with tracking and enter the tracking details into paypal and your covered.
Payment is sent by paypal.. document the package, with photos of you boxing it, send it with tracking and enter the tracking details into paypal and your covered.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Yes, he would complain to paypal that you never shipped it, then they would return his money. I tried looking for the thread where someone explained it in more detail, but couldn't find it.
antiquark
Derek Ross
To be more specific, to receive "seller protection" from paypal, you have to follow several conditions when shipping:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...orizedPaymentProtectionFAQs-outside#coverage3
In particular:
You must have proof of delivery. Provide a signature confirmation that is viewable online if payment is $250 USD or more.
It's possible to ship in a way that appears to have proof of delivery, but actually doesn't. For example, what if you ask for a signature, but it's not viewable online with your particular shipping company? Then you won't get seller protection, according to Paypal's statement above.
If memory serves, someone here sent a package as "registered" but not signed. The buyer said it never arrived, so the seller lost his money.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...orizedPaymentProtectionFAQs-outside#coverage3
In particular:
You must have proof of delivery. Provide a signature confirmation that is viewable online if payment is $250 USD or more.
It's possible to ship in a way that appears to have proof of delivery, but actually doesn't. For example, what if you ask for a signature, but it's not viewable online with your particular shipping company? Then you won't get seller protection, according to Paypal's statement above.
If memory serves, someone here sent a package as "registered" but not signed. The buyer said it never arrived, so the seller lost his money.
bizarrius
the great
She sent me a mail (twice) asking for my paypal email address because she wants to give me an extra 150GBP to send it via DHL to west africa.
if thats not a scam then what? :S
if thats not a scam then what? :S
Wags
Abuser of Light
You can set rules when placing your ad to block buyers with no feedback. Should you not get paid you can open an "unpaid item" case. I would send an invoice asking for payment to be completed within 3 days or gets relisted.
I agree that 0 feedback people are sketchy, recently had to do an unpaid item case myself same thing. However everyone has to start somewhere so give them time.
You can cancel bids, if in a country you don't ship to, etc, but best to consider all angles first.
I agree that 0 feedback people are sketchy, recently had to do an unpaid item case myself same thing. However everyone has to start somewhere so give them time.
You can cancel bids, if in a country you don't ship to, etc, but best to consider all angles first.
bizarrius
the great
update:
ebay sent me a mail today that canceled the sale because the account was a scam.
happy end.
the nokton is going to an RFFer through trade ad and is a happy lens
ebay sent me a mail today that canceled the sale because the account was a scam.
happy end.
the nokton is going to an RFFer through trade ad and is a happy lens
jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Well that's a 'one up' for eBay.
Someone, somewhere, was doing a good job in picking up the scam.
Reassuring to hear a good tale about eBay!
Glad it all worked out well for you.
jesse
Someone, somewhere, was doing a good job in picking up the scam.
Reassuring to hear a good tale about eBay!
Glad it all worked out well for you.
jesse
whatever
Established
Notice to anyone selling on E Bay.
Notice to anyone selling on E Bay.
Order from Pay Pal a security identity key ( number generator )
( security key ). Order from Pay Pal, the key will work with both E Bay and Pay Pal.
It is a small 1in. device that creates a new 6 digit number every time you press it. You must have that number every time you sign on to E Bay or Pay Pal.
It makes it impossible to hack your account. The device cost $5., it is well worth the price. My account was hacked 3 times in 6 years, the generator stopped that.
E Bay has become a hackers paradise, I have seen a lot more new buyers with 0 entries. I do sell to them because, everybody has to start from the beginning.
E Bay is still the best place to sell very high end and specialized equipment. I feel very confident now, with the security key device. Bill
Notice to anyone selling on E Bay.
Order from Pay Pal a security identity key ( number generator )
( security key ). Order from Pay Pal, the key will work with both E Bay and Pay Pal.
It is a small 1in. device that creates a new 6 digit number every time you press it. You must have that number every time you sign on to E Bay or Pay Pal.
It makes it impossible to hack your account. The device cost $5., it is well worth the price. My account was hacked 3 times in 6 years, the generator stopped that.
E Bay has become a hackers paradise, I have seen a lot more new buyers with 0 entries. I do sell to them because, everybody has to start from the beginning.
E Bay is still the best place to sell very high end and specialized equipment. I feel very confident now, with the security key device. Bill
Attachments
The day will come when Credit Cards add a device like that to replace the 3-digit printed code on the card. Make it very difficult for some one to use your card after viewing it at a register, or seeing it used online.
whatever
Established
Security key
Security key
I agree, the key security system is so simple and it works great. I would go so far to say it’s full proof. This technology is old, I don’t understand why every on line transaction doesn’t use a security key. One key could be used with every company you do business with on line. There is no way a hacker could find a 6 digit number that changes with each transaction. The strangest thing is Pay Pal doesn’t offer it to everyone with a account, you have to ask for it. Bill
Security key
Order from Pay Pal a security identity key ( number generator )
( security key ). Order from Pay Pal, the key will work with both E Bay and Pay Pal.
It is a small 1in. device that creates a new 6 digit number every time you press it. You must have that number every time you sign on to E Bay or Pay Pal.
It makes it impossible to hack your account. The device cost $5., it is well worth the price. My account was hacked 3 times in 6 years, the generator stopped that.
E Bay has become a hackers paradise, I have seen a lot more new buyers with 0 entries. I do sell to them because, everybody has to start from the beginning.
E Bay is still the best place to sell very high end and specialized equipment. I feel very confident now, with the security key device. Bill
I agree, the key security system is so simple and it works great. I would go so far to say it’s full proof. This technology is old, I don’t understand why every on line transaction doesn’t use a security key. One key could be used with every company you do business with on line. There is no way a hacker could find a 6 digit number that changes with each transaction. The strangest thing is Pay Pal doesn’t offer it to everyone with a account, you have to ask for it. Bill
whatever
Established
This is true but, Pay Pal, is the only on line bank that can do world wide money exchanges for small vendors. They also allow a small seller access to credit card payments. I find Pay Pal very safe providing you learn the rules. I cant speech for German banks but I bet they have their share of fraud. Bill
defektive
Aussie
I have recently had an ebay episode sorted out where an international buyer claimed to have not received a valuable lens I sold. To cut a long story short, ebay have just reversed their original decision and given my money back to me as I was able to obtain a delivery confirmation from the postal service showing the buyer's signature and delivery at the correct address. I have had a look at the buyer's feedback and he has bought a lot of Leica M lenses so I thought I should give everyone a heads up as to this person's ebay identity so you can avoid a similar dispute (which took 3 months to sort out) - zichao0523x. I would rather have left negative feedback on ebay than here but as the item was sold more than 90 days ago it is unfortunately not possible.