Prest_400
Multiformat
Wow, sure those aren't legacy prices from 5+ years ago? Did a quick google and didn't see much E6 related.
In Spain, Interphoto lab which may be the only lab running dip and dunk in the country lists 8,25€ for 35mm and 7,50€ for 120.
For C41 I haven't seen dev only for less than 3,50 (can't recall where) being often around 4€. 35mm & 120 more or less priced equally.
Anyhow Germany does seem to be the country with a strong, if not strongest E6 network (Henning Serger praised slide and he was around often? long time no see). Spain doesn't seem to be in that bad situation lab wise.
raid
Dad Photographer
An important effect of such a production could be a widening of E-6 services by labs.
Skiff
Well-known
E6 home development is very easy (especially with a Jobo processor) and cheap.
You can get E6 home development kits from Fuji Hunt, Tetenal, Bellini, Arista (AFAIK rebranded Tetenal).
Depending on the kit you are using, processing costs are in the 2-3€ range.
Jobo has even introduced new film processors. The CPP3 in 2012/13, and the CPE3 last year. Excellent machines.
With slides you already have your end product after the development: No need for scans or prints. Therefore also no further costs.
My overall costs for reversal film are lower than my overall costs for negative film, because for negative film always scans / prints are needed. A developed C41 film alone is worthless.
A slide on the light table under an excellent loupe looks much much better than any picture on a computer monitor (no matter whether digital files or scanned film).
With a slide I always have the full resolution.
My 35 MP digital cam is reduced to an only 8 MP cam because my monitor (4k) is limited to that resolution. The quality of the end result is always determined by the weakest element in the imaging chain.
The same is valid for projection:
Full, unsurpassed resolution with slide film, much much lower resolution with digital because of the extremely low resolution of the (overpriced) digital projectors.
I love Fujichrome Velvia 50 and Provia 100F. Best reversal films ever made (together with Provia 400X and Astia 100F). I will of course continue to shoot them!
But I will of course also test the new Ektachrome as soon as it is available (and the Film Ferrania, too).
Hogarth Ferguson
Well-known
I actually have a good stock of e100g in 220, and am developing some right now as I type. It is amazing stuff. This buncha rolls is from my trip to Cuba
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
People like to moan about the death of Kodachrome, but the truth in your comment is that if it were still around people would be moaning about how it's too expensive and it's too much of a pain to get developed.
We should remember, for several years there was only one lab in the world that would develop Kodachrome, and the film itself wasn't cheap. It died because nobody was buying it, and it won't come back because nobody would buy it if it did.
Dirk
Privatier
I hear you. It's great news, but I'm afraid to find out how much the film plus processing will cost. Can they price it for economic "sustainability"?
brbo
Well-known
I hope they are not counting on people abandoning digital and going back to film in large numbers. I hope their decision is based on current market (and the trend we see at Fuji).
This thread is a my proof that I'd still rather pay for slide film at the latest prices than take a chance with digital. The #/)%&@ that came out of that raw files is just unbelievable. There is absolutely no chance that the worst slide film (or negative film scanned in minilabs) wouldn't look ten times better than those poor attempts... Still, I don't expect much (if any) migration from digital to film.
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
I too usually opted for Kodachrome when the light allowed, but I don't pretend it will ever come back.
Fortunately color film technology has come a long way since the cold tones of early Ektachrome.
I'd wager the new version will look more like Kodak's modern color negative films, i.e. Ektar and Portra.
Chris
Fortunately color film technology has come a long way since the cold tones of early Ektachrome.
I'd wager the new version will look more like Kodak's modern color negative films, i.e. Ektar and Portra.
Chris
CMur12
Veteran
Though unlikely, I would really like it if Kodak offered a package of film, processing and mounting, and scanning for a reasonable price.
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ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
It's a good sign and we're all excited, but how many of us will buy more than a roll or two, or none at all?
Chris
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Rico
Well-known
That service would make total sense, as it did for Kodak before the Qualex debacle. My Dad sent Kodachrome II from all over the world to the States for processing, and the precious (mounted) slides were returned a few weeks later. I did the same for Kodachrome 25 in the 80s (135 and 120).
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
They might consider this since I think they are going to be doing this with their Super 8 stuff.
Ronald M
Veteran
You want Kodachrome for this. It has superb dark storage, but not so much in the projector. Ektachromes are the opposite.
There is no way to duplicate slides like there is digital. One keystroke actually.
The Chicago historical Society would only accept Kodachrome for their records. Only unmounted fiber prints also, no RC.
I have K two slides from 1960 that look as new. I have seen 4x5 Kodachrome that was very early that also looks as new as well as wedding photos from late 30`s. All my Ektachome is disappointingly faded out.
Ronald M
Veteran
There will be no pro use for fashion and catalog. With digital, a set need not be kept up until processing is done.
Art directors are used to seeing the image instantly. Even rush processing was 4 hours. And I will not even talk about messenger service and fees.
one can control the look of digital, color saturation and contrast, and color balance.
I do not want to go back to gelling windows or fluorescent lights.
Art directors are used to seeing the image instantly. Even rush processing was 4 hours. And I will not even talk about messenger service and fees.
one can control the look of digital, color saturation and contrast, and color balance.
I do not want to go back to gelling windows or fluorescent lights.
Samuel D
Established
I can understand that sentiment. But the main use for Ektachrome this time around will be hobbyist and artistic. I was at Paris Photo in November (brilliant report of the atmosphere there here), and while the work was varied in form and content, it was almost all shot on film. Film still dominates the gallery scene.
brennanphotoguy
Well-known
Now this is interesting...
https://petapixel.com/2017/01/09/kodak-investigating-take-bring-back-kodachrome/
I wonder if it's more for them just to say they are "looking into it," for lip service and seem like they are intently listening to the customer base or if they actually ARE looking into making a film with that color balance at the very least. Either way, I'm on the edge of my seat.
https://petapixel.com/2017/01/09/kodak-investigating-take-bring-back-kodachrome/
I wonder if it's more for them just to say they are "looking into it," for lip service and seem like they are intently listening to the customer base or if they actually ARE looking into making a film with that color balance at the very least. Either way, I'm on the edge of my seat.
benlees
Well-known
Would be cool if they brought back K200. Doubt that! Will Dwayne's have to process it?
Hogarth Ferguson
Well-known
I'm going to buy a 35mm camera and shoot ektachrome to show my support. I'm going to be happy about it. I'm not going to complain and say I wish they did this, I wish they did that, and I'm tired of reading that as people's primary reaction. Good for Kodak.
mpaniagua
Newby photographer
+1. Although I got lots of cameras, will surely buy a bunch of Ektachrome. Personally, I always liked Ektachrome better that Kodachrome.
Regards
Marcelo
Spanik
Well-known
That would be awesome. Nevermind where I'd have to send it to process. Would be the only film I'd ever need. I never was an Ektachrome user, went to Provia 400X when I needed to switch.