Ektachrome update?

I would rather have them take their time to get it done right. If they rush it to market and there are issues, many people will never try it again and the bad press, including many people on this forum and others, will do their anti kodak thing that they seem to enjoy doing. I just bought some of the slightly expired Provia from B&H for what I am guessing is gonna be much cheaper than when the Ektachrome is released. I'll shoot that till I have a chance to give the new film a try.

I'm really hoping slide film sales can get a long term slight bump, not just an initial release bump. What I'm really hoping for is a new Kodak 6 bath chemistry kit.
 
J enea said:
I would rather have them take their time to get it done right. If they rush it to market and there are issues, many people will never try it again and the bad press, including many people on this forum and others, will do their anti kodak thing that they seem to enjoy doing. I just bought some of the slightly expired Provia from B&H for what I am guessing is gonna be much cheaper than when the Ektachrome is released. I'll shoot that till I have a chance to give the new film a try.

I'm really hoping slide film sales can get a long term slight bump, not just an initial release bump. What I'm really hoping for is a new Kodak 6 bath chemistry kit.
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Blah blah blah blah....the product is over a year behind schedule. No one is asking to have it released today. One would think that a competent organization would have an idea, even a general one, when it would be ready after 3+ months of "testing".

If this were 120 film I'd be hesitant since it took Kodak YEARS to fix their paper problem. But this is 35mm film. When has a 35mm film ever been RE-released and it turned out to be botched?

Of course, you could be suggesting that even 35mm film is beyond their capability.
 
This is looking nice. I would be stoked if I could get results like some of those, certainly not a given in my case, but looking forward, now, to trying some.
 
Listened to the C-41 podcast, too. Very stoked by Sasha Coen's comment: "I shoot medium format and 35mm wasn't my thing 'cause I don't like the grain, but I tried it, and it looks like medium format. This is a new film!"

And then the comment, "We have to buy and shoot it so they'll release it in 120."

And I liked hearing that the dynamic range is wide. Not going to help you if you blow the highlights, but still wide enough that if you nail those, you've got "something like 7 stops"... to which I say, "Huh? Okay.... we'll see when we see it... but if you think so, that's sounding like high praise."

So am I stoked? Yes I am. Very stoked to think I might even begin to like 35mm again. Which of course I do... only I like 120 that much more.

When I came back to film, it was for the B&W, but now I'm beginning to shoot color again, and liking it very much. Not sure I want to process E6 myself, but the prospect that Kodak might make film a long term viable alternative is beginning to sound very much like their intention rather than just reviving an old formula. So maybe.... in the end, EPA and all the bother of forcing Kodak to reformulate will have driven innovation to produce a film worth the bother. Hope so. But seeing will be believing.
 
roscoetuff said:
Listened to the C-41 podcast, too. Very stoked by Sasha Coen's comment: "I shoot medium format and 35mm wasn't my thing 'cause I don't like the grain, but I tried it, and it looks like medium format. This is a new film!"
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Looks like Sasha Coen has little experience with reversal film in general. Because:
Reversal film generally has significantly finer grain, higher resolution (especially at lower and medium object contrasts) and better sharpness than color negative film.
That is the reason why professional photographers have used 35mm color reversal film for decades in their public slide / AV shows in big halls on huge cinema screens. And the slides on the huge screens have outstanding quality.
A 35mm color slide is much closer to a 120 format color negative because of this finer detail rendition than a 35mm color negative.

So that he is impressed by the fineness of grain of 35mm Ektachrome has certainly less to do with being it Ektachrome, than being it reversal film.
Because Provia 100F, the Velvias, former Astia 100F, Sensia, Kodak Elitechromes and so on all have (had) this outstanding and extremely fine detail rendition.
And this quality level which is closer to 120 format color negative film than expected.

roscoetuff said:
And I liked hearing that the dynamic range is wide. Not going to help you if you blow the highlights, but still wide enough that if you nail those, you've got "something like 7 stops"... to which I say, "Huh? Okay.... we'll see when we see it... but if you think so, that's sounding like high praise."
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Hopefully it is more than 7 stops, because former Ektachrome E100G, Elitechrome 100 and Fujichrome Provia 100F have about 8 stops. If you look at them on a light box.
If you need to squeeze even more from them it is also possible with a real drum scanner. A friend of mine showed me scans with about 11 stops contrast range from Provia 100F. And Tim Parkin (onlandscapes) had published drum scans made by him of Velvia 50 with about 10 stops range.
It is really impressive what a capable photographic medium reversal film is.

roscoetuff said:
When I came back to film, it was for the B&W, but now I'm beginning to shoot color again, and liking it very much. Not sure I want to process E6 myself, but the prospect that Kodak might make film a long term viable alternative is beginning to sound very much like their intention rather than just reviving an old formula.
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Very good idea to start using color reversal again (I've never stopped doing it :)). But you don't have to wait for Ektachrome.
You can start at once with Provia 100F, Velvia 50 and 100. Not only in 35mm, but also in 120. All three films are available in both formats (and sheet film, too).
 
Along with the new Ektachrome film, Kodak announced the upcoming release of a new Super 8mm camera. Two years ago.

This news was just as big as the reappearance of Ektachrome. Since then we have had several updates from Kodak about the preparation of the new film, but as far as I can tell, there has been nothing about the new camera. I searched the web and found absolutely nothing. However, I don't listen to all these podcasts.

Are they talking about the new Super 8mm motion picture camera? Has there been any update at all since January of 2016? Is this still an active project?
 
The images look fantastic on the instagram account, with all the normal caveats about instagram viewing. I'm very happy this is going so well for Kodak and look forward to giving this film a run.
 
Ted Striker said:
This news was just as big as the reappearance of Ektachrome. Since then we have had several updates from Kodak about the preparation of the new film, but as far as I can tell, there has been nothing about the new camera.
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There was information about the Super 8 camera made available earlier this year. It seems the camera is likely to be a $3,000 piece of kit rather than the more mainstream product first mooted. There was also a demo video released (with fairly predictable footage of festivals, skateboarding, etc.).
 
ian_watts said:
There was information about the Super 8 camera made available earlier this year. It seems the camera is likely to be a $3,000 piece of kit rather than the more mainstream product first mooted. There was also a demo video released (with fairly predictable footage of festivals, skateboarding, etc.).
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Thank you. I knew that the price had been raised but could not find a link that supported that. The link within the link you supplied showed exactly what I was trying to remember. It's been almost 3/4 of a year since that release. I wonder if they are still trying to make this camera.
 
Skiff said:
Looks like Sasha Coen has little experience with reversal film in general. Because:
Reversal film generally has significantly finer grain, higher resolution (especially at lower and medium object contrasts) and better sharpness than color negative film.
That is the reason why professional photographers have used 35mm color reversal film for decades in their public slide / AV shows in big halls on huge cinema screens. And the slides on the huge screens have outstanding quality.
A 35mm color slide is much closer to a 120 format color negative because of this finer detail rendition than a 35mm color negative.

So that he is impressed by the fineness of grain of 35mm Ektachrome has certainly less to do with being it Ektachrome, than being it reversal film.
Because Provia 100F, the Velvias, former Astia 100F, Sensia, Kodak Elitechromes and so on all have (had) this outstanding and extremely fine detail rendition.
And this quality level which is closer to 120 format color negative film than expected.

Hopefully it is more than 7 stops, because former Ektachrome E100G, Elitechrome 100 and Fujichrome Provia 100F have about 8 stops. If you look at them on a light box.
If you need to squeeze even more from them it is also possible with a real drum scanner. A friend of mine showed me scans with about 11 stops contrast range from Provia 100F. And Tim Parkin (onlandscapes) had published drum scans made by him of Velvia 50 with about 10 stops range.
It is really impressive what a capable photographic medium reversal film is.

Very good idea to start using color reversal again (I've never stopped doing it :)). But you don't have to wait for Ektachrome.
You can start at once with Provia 100F, Velvia 50 and 100. Not only in 35mm, but also in 120. All three films are available in both formats (and sheet film, too).
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I can completely agree from my tests and many years of shooting with former E100G and the current Provia 100F and Velvias.
 
Ted Striker said:
Just read about this new promotion. Kodak, going after the teen market.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/...lm-clothing-line-collaboration-analog-culture
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I think this is a smart move by Kodak. Kodak needs to win back the support of young, enthusiastic film photographers. There are very many of them out there! Fuji has a hold on the marketplace with their runaway successful Instax line and Kodak is moving in the right direction by appealing to that demographic.
 
Filter Factor said:
I think this is a smart move by Kodak. Kodak needs to win back the support of young, enthusiastic film photographers. There are very many of them out there! Fuji has a hold on the marketplace with their runaway successful Instax line and Kodak is moving in the right direction by appealing to that demographic.
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Sort of interesting: Fujifilm doesn't have any clothing line. Not that I know of. They prefer to get the support of the young with photographic products.
 
Ted Striker said:
Sort of interesting: Fujifilm doesn't have any clothing line. Not that I know of. They prefer to get the support of the young with photographic products.
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Yes, Ted, indeed you are quite correct. Fuji has successfully populated many different types of shops with their Instax products and that has gotten their name out there to many consumers who might not know them otherwise. That is the type of marketing Kodak needs to do too. I look forward to Kodak getting into many new product lines and of course following up with a re-introduced Ektachrome!
 
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