ELCAN replica lens posts

Emile de Leon said:
I just got my LLL Elcan in. Nice lil cracker of a lens.
Here is my review and some quicky test shots.
Real nice lens over all. I like the mechanics and its nice wide open.
Flares easily at wider F stops w/direct light in frame....this is not a single ray flare..just a veiling/mist over the entire frame. Will not be curable w/shade but stopping down solves the problem. But my Elmar-M 50mm f2.8 isnt great in this regard either..or my DR Sumicron. I think if you like a smaller lens this is a good fit. Not that expensive like a Leica lens and totally usable. I have ver 2. LLL is now using the generic plastic red dot on it..sort of a disappointment as I like sapphire on the 8E better. Cap fits better than the 8E 35mm which is loose. Aperture is backwards.
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Thank you very much for this testing, Emile. I wish I had tons of money to burn!
 
Ed Schwartzreic said:
Emil,
Thank you for putting the lens through paces.

I am troubled by the veiling flare you found. I saw little of this with my prototype, and right off this AM I took some fast and dirty shots to see. Here is a Linhof ballhead against the light, and then, from the same dirty window, a view of an icicle (15 below F) with the sun in the image. All at f/2. I see little flare. These were without any shade mounted, but I did have a Leitz UVa filter.



At f/4 and f/5.6 things cleaned up just a bit, but not noteworthy.

Ed
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This could imply/suggest incomplete quality control is used by LLL for this lens.
I would return the lens, Emile. Ask them to fix it for you.
 
I would second that, Emile. I just emailed Kevin (who is now only tangentially involved, though), asking him to look at the images, and to speak to Mr. Zhou about this.

Ed
 
I took several, but this is the only one which shows some flare. This is on the rim of the magnifying glass, and I would attribute that to the drop in resolution and increase in aberrations in the field, not to veiling flare. One can see the same phenomenon on the object to the left of the magnifier. In my experience with the prototype, this is typically what one gets off axis.

L1004747 by woodswoman57, on Flickr

Ed
 
Better find out early so that you have a chance to get either the lens repaired or get your money back. Then buy a CV lens maybe?
 
It's an intriguing lens and very tempting (especially at $799), but both the backwards f-stops and that fruity little f-stop tab (both exactly like the original) stop me in my tracks.
 
I try to get lenses that are missing from what I own. I did not have an APO lens, so I got the CV 50/2 APO. The CV 50/1.0 may be different optically from the CV 50/1.1, do I placed an order for a 50/1.
 
It's an intriguing lens and very tempting (especially at $799), but both the backwards f-stops and that fruity little f-stop tab (both exactly like the original) stop me in my tracks.
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I actually like the lil f stop tab..very fast in use..
 
I haven't noticed veiling flare on my copy. I have had mine since late November (last year) and been using the lens quite a bit, most shooting wide open. I took few images this morning with bright window (been snowing but no direct sunlight into the window through). As I mentioned in my earlier posts in this thread, my copy is V2LC (016/998) in silver color.


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Guess sometimes it's hard to "respect" the original design and improve upon. They have several projects that are ongoing. I am mostly intrigued by the collapsible 35 cron
 
It’s late afternoon in a snowstorm here, o/w I would try this -- to see which lenses flare under this sort of condition. I have the 50/2 APO Aspheric, as well as a myriad of older 50s.

Anyway, this is what it looks like here today — ELCAN Replica prototype at f/3.4. M10 color, which looks almost monochrome.

L1004761-Edit by woodswoman57, on Flickr

Ed
 
It is, Raid, but hard to maneuver in — about a foot+ of snow. This winter weather feel more like “the old days” — it was well below zero for several days prior to the storm. Not that much to photograph.

Your area of Florida doesn’t get this, of course, but I have been there in January where it was below freezing, and the water hose to our camper had frozen during the night.

Ed
 
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