Stuart John
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Here are a couple from my V500. I just use the epson standard film holders.
EPSON V600 or V700 or .... ?
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frperdurabo
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That scary moment when you click on a link about scanning. Scary because you might find out you're doing it all wrong. But you click because ... how else will get better?
Result: worth the Google, if only for the peace of mind 🙂 I shoot color, but if you're into BW the "only scan the green layer" tip is fascinating and not something I'd have ever thought up on my own.
Sid836
Well-known
Get the best your money can afford. V700 is a lot better than V600. If you cannot afford the V700, the V600 will be o.k.
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
V600 does 120. V700 does LF.
V600 does 120. V700 does LF.
V600 does 120. V700 does LF.
V600 does 120. V700 does LF.
V600 does 120. V700 does LF.
bayernfan
Well-known
i've owned the 600, 750 and now the 850. The 850 is amazing. The holder are amazing (35mm and MF). The scan times are amazing. Get the 800/850.
People don't seem to understand how the MF holders work for the new 800/850. The film tucks under the tabs and is supported very nicely.
People don't seem to understand how the MF holders work for the new 800/850. The film tucks under the tabs and is supported very nicely.
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Raid --
Oops... Old thread! I had posted on this a couple year ago!
Oops... Old thread! I had posted on this a couple year ago!
goamules
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Do all versions still work with Windows 10? When I updated to Win10 last year, both my flatbed and my Plustec 7200 negative scanner stopped working. There is no fix or driver to make them work now, they are worthless pieces of plastic. I'm back doing darkroom printing until I pick a scanner. I do want something that can scan at least an 8x10 size negative, if I'm going to spend the money.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
4x5 with V550. Two scans. Photoshop Elements does the stitching. If money is limited it is not the best, but still the option.
plummerl
Well-known
Have you tried Vuescan? Vuescan works with it's own drivers under Win 10, the Plustec is even mentioned on the Vuescan pages (https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/plustek_opticfilm_7200.html. I'm still using my Canon FS4000 on SCSI, using Vuescan.
goamules
Well-known
I have not tried that. But I did spend about 5 hours reading many pages and trying many drivers and scan techniques, even TWAIN, to no avail. That was about 6 months ago. I just did another search for "Plustek Windows 10" and don't see any new success stories. I think I'll have to pitch this scanner, and buy a new one. Gotta love Microsoft, who we can be sure is working on Windows 11 right now - which will disable even more of our useful hardware.
plummerl
Well-known
Wow, before you "pitch it", give Vuescan a try (you can try before you buy). He supports 115 Plustek scanners, including the 7200 & 7200i (https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/plustek_opticfilm_7200.html#technical-information). Otherwise, you can mail it to me and I'll dispose of it.
delible
Established
I use Epson 700 for half-frame 35 and I'm pleased with the results from it as well as larger sized negatives.
julio1fer
Well-known
I am an actual and happy user of a V600. It can scan 120 and 35mm.
I print in A4 size; the V600 resolution is more than good enough from 35mm, even below the scanner max resolution prints are perfect. Results are exceptionally good for 120. I use the native Epson Scan software, and Epson's Easy Photo Print for printing (I use a L210 because of the ink tanks, and it works wonderfully for me).
The V700 is better than the V600 and can also scan LF (I believe up to 4x5), but I do not have extensive experience with one.
A good holder and taking care of dust are important.
None of these flatbeds would set you back too much; in your position I'd start with a V700 and learn to use it well. You can always use a professional scanning service if you need it, once in a while.
I print in A4 size; the V600 resolution is more than good enough from 35mm, even below the scanner max resolution prints are perfect. Results are exceptionally good for 120. I use the native Epson Scan software, and Epson's Easy Photo Print for printing (I use a L210 because of the ink tanks, and it works wonderfully for me).
The V700 is better than the V600 and can also scan LF (I believe up to 4x5), but I do not have extensive experience with one.
A good holder and taking care of dust are important.
None of these flatbeds would set you back too much; in your position I'd start with a V700 and learn to use it well. You can always use a professional scanning service if you need it, once in a while.
robert blu
quiet photographer
I'm in the camp of dedicated scanner for 35mm. I have the old ED5000 Nikon and I hope it work for a long time. When it will die ...hmm I'll go full probably...
For 120 film (and Polaroid/Impossible) my V600 makes a decent job, it depend on what size you plan to print.
robert
For 120 film (and Polaroid/Impossible) my V600 makes a decent job, it depend on what size you plan to print.
robert
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
That's about my experience. I'm very happy with 12x18 print from 6x9cm MF film with scans from the V500. That's roughly 6x the linear dimension of the film.
Your A4 from 35mm will be about 8x. Close enough.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
So, I was practicing last night with wisdom of green channel and else, which was mentioned here. To be honest, if negative is good, it makes no difference at all. At least with my trusty V500 in professional, yet, auto exposure mode. Well, even with bad, barely readable negs, my V500 and its native software does it for me.
And the only reason to use VueScan is if no other good software was provided. The software I have with old Plustek and new PacificImage was awful.
Keeping negatives in the book to get them flat is most effective solution to me, instead of taping film and fingers grease to scanner glass or dealing with "better glass".
Take it easy and straight with Epson and it will take care of your negatives. 🙂
And the only reason to use VueScan is if no other good software was provided. The software I have with old Plustek and new PacificImage was awful.
Keeping negatives in the book to get them flat is most effective solution to me, instead of taping film and fingers grease to scanner glass or dealing with "better glass".
Take it easy and straight with Epson and it will take care of your negatives. 🙂
charjohncarter
Veteran
I use a V500 for both 35mm and 120. I use a Better Scanning tray (120) and a BS glass (35mm). I don't use a 3rd party software. I use the Epson software and use Swift!'s method for color and I also use his method although simpler for B&W. Then post processing is just a matter of levels.
http://www.coltonallen.com/getting-the-most-from-color-negative-film-with-your-epson-flatbed/
http://www.coltonallen.com/getting-the-most-from-color-negative-film-with-your-epson-flatbed/
ptpdprinter
Veteran
I wasn't happy with the quality of 6x9 (6x) black and white prints of scans of 35mm from a V700, so I ended up getting a film scanner. The V700 scans looked mushy to me. Perhaps prints from color negatives which have more amorphous dye clouds would be acceptable.
robert blu
quiet photographer
I think that being satisfied or not from the scans (in this case from a flatbed) depends very much on how large you desire to print, given that you have a good (properly exposed and developed) negative. The "book trick" suggested by Ko.Fe works well!
If you plan not to print large it could be worthwhile to spare money on the scanner for the common stuff and in case of need a large print to have it scanned professionally.
Just an idea...
robert
If you plan not to print large it could be worthwhile to spare money on the scanner for the common stuff and in case of need a large print to have it scanned professionally.
Just an idea...
robert
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
FWIW, I've owned an Epson v700 for a few years now. Also owned a Nikon 9000ED a couple of years ago. Sold the Nikon, kept the Epson. 'Nuff said.
The Nikon was a terrific machine, but when I did A-B comparisons between the Epson / Nikon, the difference wasn't that significant. For a cost-to-benefit ratio, I couldn't rationalize keeping the Nikon. Plus, the Nikon software was a pain to use.
I don't have any complaints about 35mm on the Epson v700. Once you get the proper tray height (and maybe some ANR glass) the results are pretty decent. Again, it takes some trail and error to get the results you want.
Here's a 35mm scan done at 1200dpi on the v700. Zenit 122 with Helios-44M lens, and Fomapan 400. Plenty sharp enough for me.
The Nikon was a terrific machine, but when I did A-B comparisons between the Epson / Nikon, the difference wasn't that significant. For a cost-to-benefit ratio, I couldn't rationalize keeping the Nikon. Plus, the Nikon software was a pain to use.
I don't have any complaints about 35mm on the Epson v700. Once you get the proper tray height (and maybe some ANR glass) the results are pretty decent. Again, it takes some trail and error to get the results you want.
Here's a 35mm scan done at 1200dpi on the v700. Zenit 122 with Helios-44M lens, and Fomapan 400. Plenty sharp enough for me.
