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Saw one listed. Cracked plastic on the lever, lever jammed and shutting button jammed. Not sure about the VF window, but body looks OK

Does have a clean Summicron-C 40mm f2.0 lens.

Was thinking of making an offer just because of the lens and play with the main body to see if I can unjam it and not have to worry about damaging it (due to it's current non working condition).

Figure if I can't fix it. At least I will have a clean lens and will look for a camera in working condition (working or non working meter) and sell this body for parts.

Curious what a fair offer would be for something like this?

Thanks

DON
 
Don,

Since a CLA is $125 min + parts. Offer him $200 less than a working CL body. Or call Sherry Krauter.

Regards,
Robert
 
Thanks Robert.

Was thinking of offering him $450 for camera and lens, but I know he could probably get that for the lens alone, but will wait a bit longer.

I thought I saw $400 prices for a CLA from Sherry and that was a minimum price not including any needed parts

DON
 
$450 sounds a bit too much for the Summicron-C to me. I thought that number around $350 would be more realistic. At last that would be the price in Europe.
 
Matus said:
$450 sounds a bit too much for the Summicron-C to me. I thought that number around $350 would be more realistic. At last that would be the price in Europe.
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Hi Matus,

I'm interested in both the non working camera and lens, so I can't offer $350 even if the lens is the only thing that works and did see two non working cameras go for about $180 and $220 on Ebay a number of months ago, so if I can possibly get $200 for the body as is.

Lens will actually only cost me $250 (if he accepts the $450 offer for complete camera).

Don't think anyone will buy at his current asking price, so going to wait before I make any offers

Thanks

DON
 
I think offering what you would pay for the lens is a pretty good idea. It's a great lens. I just auctioned one for about $450, which seemed kind of high to me, but the buyer was happy. I still have a 40mm (the Rokkor), which I use on a CLE.
I think the longest entry in my photography journal was about the CL. I really, truly disliked that camera, perhaps more than any other. And I really wanted to love it, because I got it for a great price. If you haven't used one before, see if you can find one to try first.
Whichever way you go, that's a great lens.
 
I recently bought a working CL for approx. $360 (without lens). Everything is working nicely, although the meter is a bit off, because of the wrong battery. But a handheld meter is gonna solve that problem.
here is a small pic of the combo i'm using right now

S95-706, Leica CL 001 by HoodedOne, on Flickr
 
davidbivins said:
I think offering what you would pay for the lens is a pretty good idea. It's a great lens. I just auctioned one for about $450, which seemed kind of high to me, but the buyer was happy. I still have a 40mm (the Rokkor), which I use on a CLE.
I think the longest entry in my photography journal was about the CL. I really, truly disliked that camera, perhaps more than any other. And I really wanted to love it, because I got it for a great price. If you haven't used one before, see if you can find one to try first.
Whichever way you go, that's a great lens.
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Was at a recent camera show and didn't spot any. That's why I'm looking for one at the lowest price I can get away with. Not being cheap. Just don't like to lose money when I resell things if needed. Break even or profit, but never lose 🙂

Curious though. What was it you didn't like about the camera

Thanks

DON
 
I'd second calling Sherry before making any offer. It is one thing to have a nonworking meter but it sounds like this thing took a hit and besides the shutter, you could have a destroyed rangefinder or broken mirror, and a problem with the swinging meter arm.

I do not follow the pricing but if this were around, I'd not go above maybe $300 as I see the Cron-C in good condition being priced at about $250 and I'd assume the body is good for parts. These are great cameras and to me a near perfect travel camera and daily carrier. I understand the reasoning of its detractors but can not agree with them but, it is a subject preference.

If you want a CL do not play with a potential basket case. Hit up Sherry or a major retailer with a warranty such as KOH, in the long run it makes more economical sense. You can get a bargain today but tomorrow it can need serivce. Also, getting 1 that has been gone thorugh greatly reduces the fear of it going out of service at a time when you are relying on it. When I got mine, the meter was a little sensitive so I just sent it to Leica and had them go through it. The cost was not great and they found a number of little things besides the metering that eventually would have been bothersome. I've had the camera in use pretty continiously for the past 20 years after service and NO problems what so ever. As for the battery issue, no problem. The circuit can be adjusted to the newer voltages or simply buy a CHRIS MR9 adaptor. I tried the Wein cell but with the battery in the film compartment it poses a problem if you have not used all the film as the Wein cell needs to be pulled and the hole covered to stop it fron discharging. It seemed every time I ended up with a somewhat used roll of film and a dead cell.
 
I do not follow the pricing but if this were around, I'd not go above maybe $300 as I see the Cron-C in good condition being priced at about $250
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The price for a Summicron-C hasnt been at $250US for a while now. You can sometimes get user Rokkors at this price and even though the Summicron-C is no better it commands a higher price. User Summicron-Cs I have seen have been no less than $350US. Davids experience obtaining $450 for a good one is not unheard off. (And still great value at that for a Leica lens). When the M8 came out I noted on the forum that 40mm Summicron prices didnt seem to move much where I expected it be become a popular standard lens and drive the prices up. Only now have prices crept up a bit but still not high by any means.
 
I completely agree with you on the lowest price and never losing.

I think I know where the notebook in which I took those notes is; I'll try to dig it up some night this week and re-read it and let you know more specifically what I thought.

panerai said:
Was at a recent camera show and didn't spot any. That's why I'm looking for one at the lowest price I can get away with. Not being cheap. Just don't like to lose money when I resell things if needed. Break even or profit, but never lose 🙂

Curious though. What was it you didn't like about the camera

Thanks

DON
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davidbivins said:
I completely agree with you on the lowest price and never losing.

I think I know where the notebook in which I took those notes is; I'll try to dig it up some night this week and re-read it and let you know more specifically what I thought.
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Hi David,

Thanks. I have a Yashica GX and size is close. Only problem I have with this rangefinder is with my glasses. Have to push them right up on the bridge of my nose or meter reading is difficult.

That's the problem with the Yashica. If the glasses slide a bit. Can't make out the arrows at the top in the meter.

No problem with a little canon A35F side meter or my Konica S2 which is at the bottom

Can email directly if you want at tickman@rogers.com and let me know when you find the information.

If I pass on this one. Month before and after Christmas is always a good time to buy (know my regular business goes a little flat at this time as other priorities come first)

Thanks

DON
 
Here's an excerpt of my notes from September 30, 2006.
I likely didn't have a recently-serviced or well-taken-care-of copy (bought it in a batch from an estate), and if I were right-eyed, the metering thing would be much less of an issue.
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I don't like the camera much.
Neck strap seems like a good idea, but a vinyl garrotte in practice. How is it supposed to work, exactly?
You have to pull the advance lever back a bit to activate the light meter. [...] that's usually where my right eye goes, so I might as well have a shoe-mounted or hand-held meter given that I'm saving no time while I bob my head toward and from the viewfinder.
Not sure the meter's connecting all the time anyway. Gave me some weird results.
The lens kicks ass. But I have a CLE, so I think it's [the camera is] farewell.
 
davidbivins said:
Here's an excerpt of my notes from September 30, 2006.
I likely didn't have a recently-serviced or well-taken-care-of copy (bought it in a batch from an estate), and if I were right-eyed, the metering thing would be much less of an issue.
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I don't like the camera much.
Neck strap seems like a good idea, but a vinyl garrotte in practice. How is it supposed to work, exactly?
You have to pull the advance lever back a bit to activate the light meter. [...] that's usually where my right eye goes, so I might as well have a shoe-mounted or hand-held meter given that I'm saving no time while I bob my head toward and from the viewfinder.
Not sure the meter's connecting all the time anyway. Gave me some weird results.
The lens kicks ass. But I have a CLE, so I think it's [the camera is] farewell.
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Thanks for that.. I'm right handed and should be using my right eye as it's stronger, but always seem to use my left eye.

Can always try and if I don't like it. Bye bye and try something else

DON
 
Heard back from the seller and he's holding at his $600 price and if he can't sell it at that. He'll break it up, but still wants $400 for the lens and $200 for the camera, so still the same price.

Back to looking

DON
 
That's a shame that he is asking for 600. Prices have gone up on the Summicron 40 lately and I have noticed them all pretty much at $400. I had bought a CL with non working meter for $230. It is has dings and brassing on all four corners but it is still a fun camera to use. Besides the meter it functions just fine. I hope you can find something soon!
 
Figure on buying a Mr. Zhou case for the body. To me the camera is unusable w/o one. W/ both strap lugs on the one side (the wrong side at that) I was always getting the strap tangled up when I pulled the camera up to my eye to shoot it. W/ the case it was right as rain. I loved my CL, and if you wear glasses it has a nifty viewfinder that usually allows you to see the whole frame, or enough of it anyway. Right now I have a Bessa R2a and it has more features than the CL had, as well as AE, but I still liked the little CL better.

This is when KEH may be the better option. The camera will be guaranteed, and have a 60 day warranty as well. I prefer a non metered CL since they can be bought for a better price. If you just want a lens figure on $400 or so. A non metered but otherwise fully functioning CL can usually be found for $250 and up. When you look at what a good CLA will run, and my guess is $200 at least, it starts to make more sense to go w/ KEH.

Times
 
http://www.morganmalaska.se//leicaCL.jpg

I am derailing the thread a bit here, but what is a fair price for a CL in the condition shown in the photograph linked above? Everything in the picture plus a strap is included. The meter is re calibrated for PX625's and works a treat (almost spot on with my Ricoh GRD III) and all speeds are fine and dandy. Hoping to get at least 400 USD for it, am I being optimistic?
 
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