ChrisN
Striving
Well yes. More and more people are starting to realize how utterly RIDICULOUS this material obsession is with buy "the new thing" and thinking it will make you a better photographer.
It's not BS when they say "just use the camera you have!". Buying the newest thing does NOTHING to make you a better photographer AT ALL but just putting a bigger hole in your wallet. Get over it!
The OP has confessed that he has a camera already, in fact, a whole mess of them, USE THEM.
Hmmm. Have you been reading this forum long? You do realise that this IS a gear forum?
viv
Viv
Hmmm. Have you been reading this forum long? You do realise that this IS a gear forum?
Not all gear is, or needs to be, new.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Seems a little soft around the edges
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotois/5493614808/sizes/o/in/set-72157626059913905/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotois/5493614808/sizes/o/in/set-72157626059913905/
ChrisN
Striving
Not all gear is, or needs to be, new.
True. Neither do we need to pretend that there is no new gear.
hipsterdufus
Photographer?
Wow, I'm more impressed with this picture from his photostream!
Now that is breathtaking!
aad
Not so new now.
A picture of (a picture of) a cat.
sper
Well-known
Hardly breath-taking. I will just hang on to my M9.
You're talking to a bunch of people who, if they're like me, will never be able to afford an M9. Fuji has just made available a camera that will have a similar user experience to Leica, and priced it for the masses who love photography. That to me is breathtaking enough. I'm glad that you can afford your forumla 1 Louis Vitton camera, but I can't. At least be happy for those of us who will stretch our wallets for the X100, and love it.
steveyork
Well-known
It seems to me much of the appeal of this new Fuji deals with how it looks -- the classic analog features. I've seen Leica people obsess over looks for years. I too like the analog features. I rather twist a knob then input data, but it is rather silly. But if you really dig the camera, then maybe you'll go shoot more pictures. And if you shoot more pictures...well, you get the idea.
steveyork
Well-known
You're talking to a bunch of people who, if they're like me, will never be able to afford an M9. Fuji has just made available a camera that will have a similar user experience to Leica, and priced it for the masses who love photography. That to me is breathtaking enough. I'm glad that you can afford your forumla 1 Louis Vitton camera, but I can't. At least be happy for those of us who will stretch our wallets for the X100, and love it.
The M9 is a rangefinder. The Fuji just looks like one. What do you mean by "similar experience"?
steveyork
Well-known
Just pick up a camera and take pictures? It's called an M2 with a 35 lens.
So true. Maybe there will be a button on it where your digital captures will look like film.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
I've said for a long time that a lot of folks like the look of a Leica M more than the actual experience of using one. Perhaps the Fuji is the answer to that itch.
Spyro
Well-known
So true. Maybe there will be a button on it where your digital captures will look like film.
Ι've pinned my hopes on Fuji's velvia mode.
sper
Well-known
The M9 is a rangefinder. The Fuji just looks like one. What do you mean by "similar experience"?
That's like saying a view camera is a ground glass. An SLR is a pentaprism. So what if you don't focus with a distance finding split image system?
It's got an offset optical viewfinder that allows you too see outside of the capture area, small form factor, discrete shutter and focusing sound, and simple dials for selecting aperture and shutter speed. You can't just define a Leica by the actual rangefinder mechanism, there are a lot of things about using these types of cameras that people enjoy. The simplicity of design for one, which the X100 has in droves.
So now I would actually counter by asking, how is it not a similar experience? The key word there being similar, which does not mean same.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I don't really give a rat's ass about the rangefinder focusing system. Regardless of what people here say, I think of it as no better or worse than the focus method on an SLR. What I like about the M8, for instance, is what sper is describing: optical finder, physical dials, quiet shutter. The actual physical EV comp dial on the X100 is like some kind of miracle. I've been wanting this on a high-quality digicam for a long time...it's what I miss the most from the Contax G1/2. Indeed, I think of this camera more as a digital reincarnation of the Contaxes than of a Leica.
And yes, of course I like the style too. I prefer to use things that look and feel as though somebody put a lot of thought into them.
And yes, of course I like the style too. I prefer to use things that look and feel as though somebody put a lot of thought into them.
GSNfan
Well-known
Even if this is the D90 sensor, the images should be a lot better than these low contrast and bland samples... But it could also be that the lens is low contrast and even softish.
I don't really give a rat's ass about the rangefinder focusing system. Regardless of what people here say, I think of it as no better or worse than the focus method on an SLR. What I like about the M8, for instance, is what sper is describing: optical finder, physical dials, quiet shutter. The actual physical EV comp dial on the X100 is like some kind of miracle. I've been wanting this on a high-quality digicam for a long time...it's what I miss the most from the Contax G1/2. Indeed, I think of this camera more as a digital reincarnation of the Contaxes than of a Leica.
And yes, of course I like the style too. I prefer to use things that look and feel as though somebody put a lot of thought into them.
Amen brother... :angel: So, it really comes down to two camps. I want a X100 so it is exciting and I'll find the images to be good because I'm excited or I don't want the X100 because I hate digital, I have (insert camera name) already, or I am immune to ergonomics, so I'm going to find nothing special about the images.
IMO, there IS nothing special about the images (they are good and they should be), but there is something special about the design for those of us who don't like SLRs, like rangefinder shaped camera, and prefer digital. Leicas are great and I own them, but there is nothing wrong with having more options.
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andrew00
Established
As someone without the best eyes, and to whom manual focus squinting is a one way trip a stress headache, auto focus works just fine for me and I love the design.
Does that make me bad?
Does that make me bad?
Spyro
Well-known
I don't really give a rat's ass about the rangefinder focusing system.
Same, I love everything about rangefinder cameras but the actual rangefinder. I find it antiquated and annoying, when shooting RFs I just dont use it, I always scale focus.
sper
Well-known
Even if this is the D90 sensor, the images should be a lot better than these low contrast and bland samples... But it could also be that the lens is low contrast and even softish.
I agree that the samples are a little, meh. But I think maybe they're avoiding too much post processing in some kind of effort to show what the camera is capturing. Put that thing in Velvia mode and I'm sure you'll get the contrast you want.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I'm generally a RAW shooter, but I do like Fuji's film modes, and I'm rather eager to see how they're implemented in this camera.
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