First ff Fuji

[FrankS]

Squirrel?

(Think ADD dog)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg&desktop_uri=/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg

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Constant distractions

 

[aizan]

fuji has already fleshed out the aps-c lens system. they'll be free to start working on full frame lenses next year.

 

[FA Limited]

I doubt that they are stopping development of their apsc line. Nikon did not when they released their fx line, why should Fuji be any different here.

i'm not sure how capable fuji is able to manufacture and support multiple lines of cameras / lenses. their initial supplies of stock are usually very difficult to get. and the work to make all those firmware "improvements" 😉.

fuji has already fleshed out the aps-c lens system. they'll be free to start working on full frame lenses next year.

this is a good point. in a few short years fuji has built an enviable stable of lenses. hopefully this does not delay the other lenses they have on their roadmap like the wide zoom or portrait prime.

 

[M4cr0s]

Personally I take these things for what they are at the moment, just rumors.

All things considered they need a larger (wider) flange than current X-mount for FX, I mean just look at it, they cold probably shoehorn an FX sensor in there, but that would probably create a lot of optical challenges. Especially for wide lenses. This means a Fuji FX would have to be built from scratch, that's kind of costly and they could likely not compete with Sony on price for the body alone.

Also, several Fuji reps have in various circumstances stated Fujis dedication to APS-C and their desire to build a system with regular but not frequent body upgrades and so forth. In any case it seems highly unlikely they would kill off the APS-C X-system.

Now, I do think we'll see an FX "X100".

I do think we'll see an X-Pro 2 with a somewhat thicker and fancier optical viewfinder with a bit more tele (to cover a 85/90mm lens?) as well as an upgraded EVF with better refresh rate in low light. The other bits and pieces of technology present in the E-X2/X100s will logically follow and probably a new sensor, likely a 24mp Sony chip with Fujis X-Trans stuff on top (just like the present X-Pro 1) and with OSPDAF.

Obviously just guessing, but the optical viewfinder is what makes the X-Pro 1 stand out, the primary sales point over other systems to the rangefinder fans.

Mac

 

[thegman]

so…sell all my fuji gear now and wait for the full frame to appear?

i'm a bit disappointed and excited at the same time. i thought fuji might resist the ff temptation and just keep improving it's current line up.
i'm tempted to sell the fuji gear and just get the damn sony rx1r and be done with it all…one lens and keep life simple...

If you feel disappointed because a camera company makes your purchases appear obsolete, then I think the key to that is to stop caring about what companies do.

At the moment, I am contemplating buying a HP 200LX handheld computer. Now that computer has been "obsolete" for 10 years, and every computer company around would be telling me to buy their new wunderhandheld.

If I was advising you (which I am not), I'd say go the opposite way, stick it to the man, and sell all your 'modern' gear and get something old and cheap. Stop caring what companies think you should be buying, and what cameras are the next big thing.

Base your excitement and disappointment on the quality of your work, not what companies want you to think.

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

I wonder if the current X lenses will perform on a FF sensor....

According to fuji, they would need all new lenses. So, also according to Fuji, they are not spending the time on it now. It will be aps-c for a while.

 

[Spyro]

I stopped caring what companies do, when they discontinued the contax g.
I was happy with the camera, it had the lenses I wanted so I just kept shooting it and when it broke I picked up another one from the auction site 🙂

the full frame thing was a big deal for me when I simply couldn't find the primes I wanted in smaller formats. Not the case anymore, so I happily "downgraded" to APS-C. As for megapixel count and extreme bokeh I'm past my point of sufficiency anyway and I have no need for more.

If Fuji spits out a full frame camera I will assess it on its merits as always but I will not tolerate compromises just for the sake of a bigger sensor. And there will be compromises, because bigger sensors put pressure on everything: size, cost, fps, buffer, battery life, image stabilisation, shutter sound, electronic shutter readout, lens design, AF speed... they all become more difficult.

 

[bwcolor]

I don't understand concern for Fujifilm's APS-C offerings. I'm sure that they will just keep getting better. They won't slow down the development of this line of cameras in that they offer smaller packages (lens included) and a more affordable price point.

What is a bit disappointing is the end of 2014-2015 time frame. Sony will be on to new and better things, including a new generation of sensor based upon a different technology than available today. After all, it is only fair comparing one rumor to another.

 

[jsrockit]

Let's be honest, if you make an exceptional photo, with exceptional content, and exceptional framing... is it going to matter if you used a modern APSC sensor instead of FF?

 

[perudo]

so…sell all my fuji gear now and wait for the full frame to appear?

i'm a bit disappointed and excited at the same time. i thought fuji might resist the ff temptation and just keep improving it's current line up.
i'm tempted to sell the fuji gear and just get the damn sony rx1r and be done with it all…one lens and keep life simple...

Me too, I'm very tempted to sell all my gear and just keep it simple with a one lens camera.

 

[Keith]

Let's be honest, if you make an exceptional photo, with exceptional content, and exceptional framing... is it going to matter if you used a modern APSC sensor instead of FF?

Because when you focus on a cat's nose at fairly close quarters you can actually get some bokeh around it's ears! 😀

 

[Bille]

- the x200 looks like the first ff followed by the xpro version

Doesnt make sense. Fuji is stuck with APS-C (but in a good way...)
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/xf_lens/roadmap/

 

[shadowfox]

Let's be honest, if you make an exceptional photo, with exceptional content, and exceptional framing... is it going to matter if you used a modern APSC sensor instead of FF?

Let's get even further into the core of how we think:
If you are given the choice of two cameras, one with FF, the other APSC. Same quality, same price, same lens mount with comparable lenses available.

How many of us do you think will choose the APSC.
I can speak for myself, I'd go for the FF version in a heartbeat.

 

[jsrockit]

Let's get even further into the core of how we think:
If you are given the choice of two cameras, one with FF, the other APSC. Same quality, same price, same lens mount with comparable lenses available.

How many of us do you think will choose the APSC.
I can speak for myself, I'd go for the FF version in a heartbeat.

Yeah, I know... me too.

 

[YYV_146]

The fuji sensor IS a sony sensor, just with the bayer array modified to the xtrans format. The underlying silicon is the same as the original sony 16mp.

I wont be surprised if they took a similar approach With the 24mp FF.

On the other hand I'm not sure that the x mount can fit a true 24x36 sensor...maybe an APS-H, though

 

[daveleo]

Let's get even further into the core of how we think:
If you are given the choice of two cameras, one with FF, the other APSC. Same quality, same price, same lens mount with comparable lenses available.

How many of us do you think will choose the APSC.
I can speak for myself, I'd go for the FF version in a heartbeat.

That's kind of a fantastic question (maybe "fanciful" is a better word?).
For one thing an APS camera that weighs as much, is as big as and costs as much as a FF camera is a horribly executed design.
On the other hand a FF camera that weighs as little, is as small as, and costs as little as an APS camera is a wonderful design.

So . . . I'll let you know my decsion when I see the numbers 😀😀

 

[Photog9000]

Seems now officially APS-C will be for chicks and FF for us real photogs 😀 Interesting times, indeed.

Sounds kinda arrogant. I have used APS-C since my first Nikon D1. I used Nikon D2H bodies as a newspaper photojournalist for a decade - even after the D3 hit the streets. To say FF is for "real photographers" and APS-C is for, essentially, wanabees, is like saying my D2H bodies would never be used for billboard images! Granted, I only had one used on a billboard but was amazed at how good it looked!

 

[B-9]

Yay, another camera most of us can't afford.

The best FF Fuji is a roll of velvia in your favorite. RF

 

[GaryLH]

Let's get even further into the core of how we think:
If you are given the choice of two cameras, one with FF, the other APSC. Same quality, same price, same lens mount with comparable lenses available.

How many of us do you think will choose the APSC.
I can speak for myself, I'd go for the FF version in a heartbeat.

For me... Size, weight, and compactness matters.. If we are talking about small increase, yes, no question.. But as I said for my type of photography and especially considering how big is my max blow up for prints (13x19), apsc already good enough.

Yeah, I have heavy dslr's around, but I prefer the lighter cameras like the Fuji or sigma dp series.

Anyway, I am happy to sit this out for a bit and c how things turn out. I don't need any more lenses... I can wait until 2015 to c how things shake out.

The only thing that would give me a GAS attack is if someone announces a foveon like mirrorless interchangeable lens system...

Gary

Ps.. One of the biggest advantages I c for me going to ff is clean high iso... But since I have a metabones speedbooster for my Nikon lenses.. A f1.4 lenses is now a stop faster.. Albeit not a af solution.. It does help w/ GAS issue...

 

[GaryLH]

Yay, another camera most of us can't afford.

The best FF Fuji is a roll of velvia in your favorite. RF

Lol.. For me it is a roll of 120 b&w film on one of my folders. But I am just getting lazy these days and shoot more and more digital.

Cost wise.. Hopefully, Fuji can keep it in the same ball park as the Sony a7 family.

But these are just rumors and interesting forum speculations.. 😀

Gary