GSNfan
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This is a nice camera but wake me up when there is a digital camera with a 32 bit b&w sensor.
First look preview of X100 at dpreview.com
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totifoto
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My only concern now is the RAW button. Why do they have it there? I´m afraid I would be pressing it accidentally all the time.
Paul T.
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More than that - where's the first impression of focusing speed? I could understand why it's too early to post images, but it seems pointless doing a preview without some analysis of how well, and how quickly, it focuses.
IN any case, their enthusiasm is promising, it means mroe dealers should order the camera, and more rival manufacturers will take notice.
The fact the camera seems to he heading over the £1,000 mark means I'll have to hold off until the summer at least, but I"d like to see lots of X100 on the move, and a price reduction in July or August...
videogamemaker
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It's to turn on/off the capture of Raw images, or if you are shooting in Raw only, for an in camera conversion of a raw into a jpeg using the jpeg engine of the camera.
Useful in times when you are without a computer with Lightroom/silkypix/photoshop but you want to share/print/upload a jpeg of a shot you took.
videogamemaker
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Yeah, it's sad that neither Dpreview or the norwegian site made mention of AF speed.
kevin m
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It is baffling. Since many of us end up welding a 35-ish lens on our RF's anyway, a digital Canonet at a Canonet-like price is what we've been looking for.
gavinlg
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dpreview never post anything further than body impressions and feel/fit on their previews. The meat of the experience always comes in the full review.
Not baffling at all... rangefinder users are a niche group. Most large companies are not looking to cater to niches.
videogamemaker
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Translated from the Norwegian article: In the whole, however, worked both metering and autofocus fine, even in low light.
Highly speculative, but don't you think if it was sluggish they might have mentioned that? I know we can't really glean speed off of this, but seeing as they criticized other aspects of it, while saying, "but we know this isn't final", they would have said something about slow AF if it was unbearably slow.
That's probably me reading too much into it, but it makes me hopeful for good AF speed.
Highly speculative, but don't you think if it was sluggish they might have mentioned that? I know we can't really glean speed off of this, but seeing as they criticized other aspects of it, while saying, "but we know this isn't final", they would have said something about slow AF if it was unbearably slow.
That's probably me reading too much into it, but it makes me hopeful for good AF speed.
Frank Petronio
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The wouldn't mention slow autofocus on a preview model anyhow, that would not be fair to the manufacturer who hasn't finalized everything yet.
Most likely it should be faster than an X1 ;-)
Most likely it should be faster than an X1 ;-)
bwcolor
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The review is pretty much without substance, but their suggestion to include a filter adapter ring with the camera is an excellent one and we should all bombard Fuji with an echo of the same. They need to put the adapter in with the camera.
sper
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videogamemaker
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They mentioned plenty of similar things, unworking buttons, camera freezing up, a dial that didn't connect to any functions.
It's not an endorsement of AF speed, but I think it can be taken as good news.
videogamemaker
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How does that follow? The X1 has a similar lens length (24mm?) and it get's dinged for it's slow AF.
GSNfan
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The google translate site works pretty well with the Norwegian translation. just make sure you try one paragraph at a time.
videogamemaker
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If using Chrome, it pops up the "do you want to translate option" The benefit of not only getting the whole page translated, is when I saved it to disk in case Fuji asks them to take it down later, the page is saved in that translated version (in my case english).
Frankie
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Give dpreview a break.
They were given "an early sample" no doubt with an NDA in place. Often, and as soon as the camera is released, they would have a full reveiw... How do you think they could do it so quickly...if not already having a working/final model but agreed not to publish anything, you know...NDA.
I am gratified to read the built-quality is high, camera solid and handling the way a camera should. [I particularly hate arms-length focusing only via the LCD, menu selection of f-stops, focus and anything normal in a traditional/standard camera.]
I was correct even in speculating [in the mega thread long ago] that the dial left of the VF is for diopter correction, and the dual windows on the right is the optical sensor to turn on/off the EVF when in that mode...just like the EVF in the Oly-pen models.
The only thing new to me spec-wise is the "jog" dial now known to have 3 positions: push-in, left and right. Despite Fuji calls it "convenient command lever" and generally believed it is for flash control; I believe, firmware permitting, several functions could be assigned to that jog control. [I would select a few focal positions for a medium f-stop to do zone-focusing. You know: push-in to activate at medium focal position, left for far, and right for close.]
The removable lens ring exposed a male thread for the adapter ring. I would not be surprised someone would make a female thread lens hood...hopefully rubber. Or might Fuji actually intended to use that for mounting a lens [focal length] converter...a 2X would answer all my wishes.
I say again: "the [x100] is my idea!"...and my money is ready.
They were given "an early sample" no doubt with an NDA in place. Often, and as soon as the camera is released, they would have a full reveiw... How do you think they could do it so quickly...if not already having a working/final model but agreed not to publish anything, you know...NDA.
I am gratified to read the built-quality is high, camera solid and handling the way a camera should. [I particularly hate arms-length focusing only via the LCD, menu selection of f-stops, focus and anything normal in a traditional/standard camera.]
I was correct even in speculating [in the mega thread long ago] that the dial left of the VF is for diopter correction, and the dual windows on the right is the optical sensor to turn on/off the EVF when in that mode...just like the EVF in the Oly-pen models.
The only thing new to me spec-wise is the "jog" dial now known to have 3 positions: push-in, left and right. Despite Fuji calls it "convenient command lever" and generally believed it is for flash control; I believe, firmware permitting, several functions could be assigned to that jog control. [I would select a few focal positions for a medium f-stop to do zone-focusing. You know: push-in to activate at medium focal position, left for far, and right for close.]
The removable lens ring exposed a male thread for the adapter ring. I would not be surprised someone would make a female thread lens hood...hopefully rubber. Or might Fuji actually intended to use that for mounting a lens [focal length] converter...a 2X would answer all my wishes.
I say again: "the [x100] is my idea!"...and my money is ready.
ZeissFan
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I don't think you can get much in these previews of pre-production models, aside from general touch and feel and ergonomics.
The camera is incomplete, which is made clear by buttons that don't work. And any photos taken with it probably couldn't be fairly judged, as the programming hasn't been completed.
However, I'm with Frank and I'm not sure that I would plunk down my money for the privilege of being one of Fuji's beta testers. And that's the reality of any radically new electronic product or software.
Hey, remember about six or seven years ago when morons were bidding on the rights to buy Canon's full-frame SLR? Not buying the camera, mind you, but just to get in line to buy it. I think the same thing happened with a console video game at Christmas a couple of years back -- before the big crash slapped people back to reality. But I guess if you have the money, go for it.
The camera is incomplete, which is made clear by buttons that don't work. And any photos taken with it probably couldn't be fairly judged, as the programming hasn't been completed.
However, I'm with Frank and I'm not sure that I would plunk down my money for the privilege of being one of Fuji's beta testers. And that's the reality of any radically new electronic product or software.
Hey, remember about six or seven years ago when morons were bidding on the rights to buy Canon's full-frame SLR? Not buying the camera, mind you, but just to get in line to buy it. I think the same thing happened with a console video game at Christmas a couple of years back -- before the big crash slapped people back to reality. But I guess if you have the money, go for it.
kevin m
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It's not JUST RF users who have been clamoring for years for a smaller alternative to carrying a DSLR - DSLR owners have been asking for one, too, and they're just as obsessed with the search for the 'perfect' compact digital camera, as we are here. I would say that's the one area where DSLR shooters and RF shooters have a LOT in common, actually.
I don't think it's a "niche" if nearly every thoughtful photographer on the planet is looking for one. 😀 If Fuji gets this camera right, it's going to be huge. I think a lot of us here who might have been saving for an R-D1 or M8 might opt for this camera instead.
sper
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I guess I didn't think about that. I just don't get how lenses with such great depth of field can take so long to focus. Olypmus Pen, and point and shoot cameras come to mind.