First look preview of X100 at dpreview.com

sper said:
The Fuji Guy's twitter says the Norwegian review was unauthorized....uh oohhh.
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Interesting info - so we can assume that this is a trade show sample that might have been floating around with FujiFilm reps for a while. Consequence: The camera's firmware status might be long outdated in reference to where Fuji internal firmware development might stand right now.

It's too early to whine and worry.
 
I think it looks pretty cool. Aside from that it's hard to pass judgement without actually holding it and taking pictures with it. I was all gaga about the Canon G10 once, but when I actually used it, while it was nice, it wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

That said, I definitely want to check it out.
 
andrew00 said:
One area Fuji have definitely been cloudy on is the sensor, which some people suggested was an old D90 sensor (and not a new D7000 aka new Sony sensor) due to the 12 mp, though Fuji have said they designed it themselves we don't know if they designed a tweak from the stock sensor or what.
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Both the D90 and D7000 sensors are Sony, as it are Pentax K-x and K-5. just slightly different generations. I'd be delighted with a D90 sensor.

The Fuji-specific customization (whether it's a Sony or something else) is the eccentric microlens array, similar to that used on the M8/M9.
 
tapesonthefloor said:
The tweet mentioned above, complete with Russell Peters reference.

The Windows 7 ad mentioned above, and why Frankie is owed an apology.
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What would I apologize for? I asked him nicely to stop posting the phrase. I don't watch TV, RFF is an international forum where Microsoft doesn't advertise in every country even if I did, and once you post a "joke" more than 3-4x it starts to get old.

I was pretty sure it wasn't authorized. I wonder what in the world Fuji Norway was thinking? One would imagine to check with Fuji HQ before giving a no-holds-barred preview with an out of date prototype. Wonder if someone was trying to make a point or get even for something?
 
He wasn't making a joke, he was making a point using the tools at his disposal. You misunderstood/overreacted. This is a forum full of kind, sensible people. Kind, sensible people occasionally apologize for misunderstandings.

But it's up to you. I can't say I'm that bothered either way. I appreciate both your contributions to this forum.
 
tapesonthefloor said:
He wasn't making a joke, he was making a point using the tools at his disposal. You misunderstood/overreacted. This is a forum full of kind, sensible people. Kind, sensible people occasionally apologize for misunderstandings.

But it's up to you. I can't say I'm that bothered either way. I appreciate both your contributions to this forum.
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Well I'm sorry I didn't get it, because if I had known the reference, it wouldn't be so bothersome.
 
Interesting follow up quote by the Norwegian guy:

I haven't played around much with a DP1, but I did play a bit with a pre-production X1, which was painfully slow. The X100 felt MUCH more responsive. When I said the AF wasn't too fast, I meant that compared to the best enthusiast/semipro dSLRs. I'd say the X100 AF is at least on a par with Oly's E-P1 etc, and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be faster in the end product. Fujifilm has previously promised an AF-speed of 0,16 sec on the X100, which is the same as on their F300 EXR (even though X100 won't have the hybrid AF from the F300 EXR).
 
hmmm

hmmm

So Far, I like what I see...

The IQ is good...

But what is also very important to me is the dynamic range...

I want to see RAW!

RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW!!!!!
 
jsrockit said:
Realize that the majority of DSLR owners are novice amateurs ....
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Well then they're not the "thoughtful photographers" I was talking about. I was thinking serious amateurs and/or professionals. 🙂

Time will tell if Fuji has this camera dialed in or not, but IF they do, then it's appeal is going to be broader than "niche." Semi-serious amateurs; pros tired or carrying a Canikon on vacation; retro fetishists; the shiny-new-object lovers. This camera crosses a bunch of lines.
 
I see a quaint problem with this camera and that's that in the hands of a professional photographer he will just be another voyeur in the crowd with a point and shoot digicam. In some situations this is great but not all where sometimes the presence of a DSLR lets people know your purpose and you are given the space you require accordingly.

That last paragraph is slightly tongue in cheek ... but it's also partially true. 😛
 
Wow, there is some softness in the corners, as well as chromatic aberration. I wonder if they made too many IQ sacrifices for the sake of a compact lens, a la the Olympus XA. This is taken from a post of Aetius's on dpreview.com, the preceding number being the ISO:

200: http://images.gfx.no/787/787627/fujifilm_x100_hk_00200.jpg
400: http://images.gfx.no/787/787628/fujifilm_x100_hk_00400.jpg
800: http://images.gfx.no/787/787629/fujifilm_x100_hk_00800.jpg
1600: http://images.gfx.no/787/787630/fujifilm_x100_hk_01600.jpg
3200: http://images.gfx.no/787/787631/fujifilm_x100_hk_03200.jpg
6400: http://images.gfx.no/787/787632/fujifilm_x100_hk_06400.jpg
12800: http://images.gfx.no/787/787633/fujifilm_x100_hk_12800.jpg
 
I photograph gallery openings for an educational arts institute occasionally and I usually encounter patrons with point and shoots throughout the evening. When I had the M8 they seemed oblivious to suddenly stepping in front of me as I was about to take a shot but since switching to a D700 it just doesn't happen ... ever!

I reckon the Fuji would be perfect for these events because I currently use the Nikon with a 35mm f2 and 3200 and sometimes 6400 ISO ... so it would do exactly what the D700 does at a fraction of the size and weight. (and cost)

Maybe I could hang a hollowed out DSLR around my neck as a decoy! 😀

Cheers ...
 
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tapesonthefloor said:
Wow, there is some softness in the corners, as well as chromatic aberration. I wonder if they made too many IQ sacrifices for the sake of a compact lens, a la the Olympus XA. This is taken from a post of Aetius's on dpreview.com, the preceding number being the ISO:
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Sorry, I´m not seeing it. I mean, I see the presence of what you are mentioning, but I am not seeing it at a worrisome or problematic setting. The CA lightroom will easily cleanup, and the corner softness looks negligible. That iso 6400 is literally jaw-dropping in terms of cleanness and details.

If anything, these examples have made me want the camera more. Coming from a 5D these have both less noise, and seemingly sharper resolving power.
 
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I'm not saying the pro look doesn't work or that professionals don't need a nice DSLR, I'm just saying that I think a lot of soccer dads buy a DSLR aspirationally.

No intent to offend actual professionals.
 
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Yes, but they don't have a (potentially) great viewfinder system, fast lens, lots of manual adjustments on the outside of the camera... etc.. The Fuji, I believe, will definitely be seen as something special in the development of useful digital cameras.
 
Keith said:
I see a quaint problem with this camera and that's that in the hands of a professional photographer he will just be another voyeur in the crowd with a point and shoot digicam. In some situations this is great but not all where sometimes the presence of a DSLR lets people know your purpose and you are given the space you require accordingly.

That last paragraph is slightly tongue in cheek ... but it's also partially true. 😛
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Glad it was tongue and cheek, cause there'd be a lot of wjhizzed off M8-M9 guys out there reading this. 😀

videogamemaker said:
Interesting follow up quote by the Norwegian guy:

I haven't played around much with a DP1, but I did play a bit with a pre-production X1, which was painfully slow. The X100 felt MUCH more responsive. When I said the AF wasn't too fast, I meant that compared to the best enthusiast/semipro dSLRs. I'd say the X100 AF is at least on a par with Oly's E-P1 etc, and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be faster in the end product. Fujifilm has previously promised an AF-speed of 0,16 sec on the X100, which is the same as on their F300 EXR (even though X100 won't have the hybrid AF from the F300 EXR).
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I pray that the X100's AF is better than the E-P1. I recall the AF speed on the E-P1 was one of it's biggest complaints/drawbacks.
 
tapesonthefloor said:
Wow, there is some softness in the corners, as well as chromatic aberration. I wonder if they made too many IQ sacrifices for the sake of a compact lens, a la the Olympus XA. This is taken from a post of Aetius's on dpreview.com, the preceding number being the ISO:

200: http://images.gfx.no/787/787627/fujifilm_x100_hk_00200.jpg
400: http://images.gfx.no/787/787628/fujifilm_x100_hk_00400.jpg
800: http://images.gfx.no/787/787629/fujifilm_x100_hk_00800.jpg
1600: http://images.gfx.no/787/787630/fujifilm_x100_hk_01600.jpg
3200: http://images.gfx.no/787/787631/fujifilm_x100_hk_03200.jpg
6400: http://images.gfx.no/787/787632/fujifilm_x100_hk_06400.jpg
12800: http://images.gfx.no/787/787633/fujifilm_x100_hk_12800.jpg
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From those samples, the lens looks really good. Typically any lens is going to have some minor faults wide open.

Those samples are crazy crazy crazy. Looks like it blows my 5d into the weeds for noise performance.
 
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