shambla
Member
Dpreview.com have just posted a short hands on preview of the X100 with a pre-production prototype version of the camera which can be found here: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmx100/ . Haven't started reading it myself, so no idea what their opinions are yet, but I am sure people will be interested to read a reputable source give this camera a look, even if it isn't final production hardware or software.
Shambla
Shambla
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
dpreview are all over it like a cheap suit!
Still nothing we didn't already know though ... where's the images?
Still nothing we didn't already know though ... where's the images?
san84
Member
nothing new
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
When they say they can't say anything at all about IQ, does that mean they're not allowed to, or that the camera doesn't actually produce images yet?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
When they say they can't say anything at all about IQ, does that mean they're not allowed to, or that the camera doesn't actually produce images yet?
It seems ludicrous to me to review/preview a new camera without discussing ... or being able to discuss IQ. What's the purpose of a ****ing camera if it isn't to produce images.
It was just a sponsored fondle ... more hype!
andrew00
Established
http://www.akam.no/artikler/fujifilm_x100/80789/1
I don't know if this site is legit but on the second page of their preview they have images posted!
I don't know if this site is legit but on the second page of their preview they have images posted!
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
They are using pretty heavy noise reduction on those high ISO jpegs. Softens the images a lot. RAW files will tell the tale.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
The Nikon they are comparing it too keeps the noise reduction low. More noise, but sharper images.
I guess there ain't no free lunch, though.
I guess there ain't no free lunch, though.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Whatever images you find online is produced by work-in-progress preview cameras using work-in-progress preview firmware.
I know we all want to jump to conclusions but for definitive statements about image quality it's just too early.
I know we all want to jump to conclusions but for definitive statements about image quality it's just too early.
andrew00
Established
One area Fuji have definitely been cloudy on is the sensor, which some people suggested was an old D90 sensor (and not a new D7000 aka new Sony sensor) due to the 12 mp, though Fuji have said they designed it themselves we don't know if they designed a tweak from the stock sensor or what.
If it were an old D90 sensor I'd expect it to perfect less well than the D7000, but it seems to be doing pretty well by comparison.
Albeit it with it's pre-production 'can't really tell for sure' images.
If it were an old D90 sensor I'd expect it to perfect less well than the D7000, but it seems to be doing pretty well by comparison.
Albeit it with it's pre-production 'can't really tell for sure' images.
Naumoski
Well-known
There should be written a BIG review from all deep posts and conversations about X100 from this forum over several last months

gavinlg
Veteran
The Nikon they are comparing it too keeps the noise reduction low. More noise, but sharper images.
I guess there ain't no free lunch, though.
I disagree. In their samples, the x100 has better detail and less noise than the d7000 comparisons. Looks like an excellent noise suppression job for jpeg. I'll bet the jpegs were taken with minimum sharpening too...
Those samples look really fantastic. Top of the aps-c heap IMO.
gavinlg
Veteran
Also, I just noticed the camera comparison here - check out how the x100 is really similar to the GF1 - what I would call a compact camera.

Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Did the article say what lens they were using on the D7000?
gavinlg
Veteran
Did the article say what lens they were using on the D7000?
Don't think so, but if you look comparatively between base iso and high iso I think the x100 is doing a better job.
If you're thinking the lens on the x100 is better I'd say you're right about that too...
shambla
Member
Yeah, having read it I agree - nothing very much new in the preview. The couple of things I was pleased to hear were their positive opinions on the viewfinder (brightness, size etc) and the overall build quality. I know that other sites have made similar comments before, but a lot of those were more consumer electronics type sites like engadget and so I am willing to attach a bit more weight to them coming from dpreview. Still very curious about image quality like everyone else, but I am happy to wait until there are final (or very close to final) production versions available.
Shambla
Shambla
gavinlg
Veteran
If it were an old D90 sensor I'd expect it to perfect less well than the D7000, but it seems to be doing pretty well by comparison.
If the sample images on the foreign link posted are indicative of it's normal quality, I'd say this is no d90 sensor, or at least if it is it's been tweaked and massaged into something new for this camera.
sper
Well-known
I'm still saying I gotta throw this in the pile of irresponsible purchases I'll make this year. I've been waiting YEARS for an affordable compact I'd actually enjoy using. The EP-1, GF-1 and NEX's are so sad compared to this. Why has it taken so long to design this camera! ($7,000 dollar status pieces aside). I don't even think it's 'retro' as much as it is 'good design.'
This is going to be perfect for traveling when I don't wanna take the 5Diesel II. And that's saying something since I've already forgone Canon lenses for the pancake's from Voigtlander.
I'm thrilled.
Now just waiting for Olympus to make a digital Stylus Epic (full frame of course!)
This is going to be perfect for traveling when I don't wanna take the 5Diesel II. And that's saying something since I've already forgone Canon lenses for the pancake's from Voigtlander.
I'm thrilled.
Now just waiting for Olympus to make a digital Stylus Epic (full frame of course!)
damien.murphy
Damien
Nice to see a detailed preview, even if without images yet. The lack of a hard iso button concerns me though, and I hope Fuji doesn't drop the ball in this regard.
sper
Well-known
Nice to see a detailed preview, even if without images yet. The lack of a hard iso button concerns me though, and I hope Fuji doesn't drop the ball in this regard.
There is a function button near the shutter. Probably programable. Or if it's anything like the Nikon P7000, it won't do anything at all. I however think Fuji will probably allow it to do something, unlike Nikon.
One other thing I noticed when looking at the larger picture of the rear of the camera, was that the control dial was one of those damn click left click right types, as opposed to a spinning dial. This initially annoyed me but then I remembered...oh wait...if I want to change the shutter speed or aperture I just...TURN THE APERTURE OR SHUTTER RING. Amazing!
I'm still stoked.
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