ywenz
Veteran
This one is pretty nasty, but 4 sec exposure at high ISO?? not a real world example...
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69744912
These two are realworld examples however...
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69754898
banding visible at the bottom of the pic: ( to be fair, my 20D bands like this at 3200 iso as well. I don't see a film like grain in this example however)
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69745616
a nasty streak...
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69805095
This one has all the elements of a poor high iso sensor with lots of noise in the blue channel. Perhaps you apply my GRD trick where you turn down the in-camera saturation level to reduce the blue channel noise?
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69803984
The rest of them here:
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_m8&page=all
What are you assessments?
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69744912
These two are realworld examples however...
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69754898
banding visible at the bottom of the pic: ( to be fair, my 20D bands like this at 3200 iso as well. I don't see a film like grain in this example however)
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69745616
a nasty streak...
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69805095
This one has all the elements of a poor high iso sensor with lots of noise in the blue channel. Perhaps you apply my GRD trick where you turn down the in-camera saturation level to reduce the blue channel noise?
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/69803984
The rest of them here:
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_m8&page=all
What are you assessments?
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Nachkebia
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jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Hmm... I would not have put them on the web - but I would have tried to do them again - and better. I think Vladimer nails it here. We should look at the produce of better photographers...
ywenz
Veteran
The rest of his pics are linked below. He's not a bad photographer at all.
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
Toby
On the alert
I going to reserve judgement until someone with the photographic ability to match their bank balance posts some pictures. Most of the shots I've seen would be technically quite poor whatever the camera, so I really don't know what I can learn from them other than people spend too much money on cameras they can't get the best out of, but then Ferrari doesn't only sell cars to racing drivers 
Nachkebia
Well-known
I will try to post nice image from M8 (ywenz don`t kill me for this) 
http://luminous-landscape.com/1photo-pages/horse-wash.shtml
http://luminous-landscape.com/1photo-pages/horse-wash.shtml
neelin
Established
Nachkebia said:it is easy this days to find nasty image from M8, try to find good one
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Yes, let's stop with the blurry unsharp photos with inferior equipment
http://masters-of-photography.com/D/doisneau/doisneau_kiss_full.html
to be honest, so far I haven't seen one "keeper" on the web that was wrecked by the M8
Robert
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
ywenz said:The rest of his pics are linked below. He's not a bad photographer at all.
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
OK, he has still to master the equipment then....
RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
If anything it is encouraging to see that the camera isn't capable of "automatically" producing excellent results and that in the wrong (read: unskilled/inexperienced) hands pretty inferior results. From what I've seen of the small amount of images shown here (in our gallery--someone posted some test/first shots), in the right (skilled hands) the results were quite good. Seems more tool-like than toy-like.
BUT, noise is noise and ywenz found us some pretty ugly examples of just how bad it can get.

BUT, noise is noise and ywenz found us some pretty ugly examples of just how bad it can get.
ywenz
Veteran
all the examples posted in our gallery are low ISO pictures. I'd like to see well processed high ISO images from our distinguished members.
willie_901
Veteran
When Leica makes lemmons, make lemonade!
When Leica makes lemmons, make lemonade!
Many of the M8 photos I've seen all around the web during the past 3 or 4 days make me want to order one. It appears the M8 will streamline my workflow for adding hallucinogenic /surreal images to my portfolio.
When Leica makes lemmons, make lemonade!
ywenz said:What are you assessments?
Many of the M8 photos I've seen all around the web during the past 3 or 4 days make me want to order one. It appears the M8 will streamline my workflow for adding hallucinogenic /surreal images to my portfolio.
ywenz
Veteran
Found some more M8 pics.. curiously the one with the headlight does not show banding...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/silberman/sets/72157594364543199/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/silberman/sets/72157594364543199/
georgl
Member
I also need to learn how to use the M8 properly- but maybe a few shots (no masterpieces ;-) including 100% crops give you an idea of the possibilities:
They were all made at 800ASA (640 + 1/3EV) and f1,4 (35Asph) with standard noise reduction by C1:
They were all made at 800ASA (640 + 1/3EV) and f1,4 (35Asph) with standard noise reduction by C1:
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ywenz
Veteran
georgl: perhaps we have different perceptions, but to me the 100% crops indiciate that the noise reduction was heavily applied and the result is a water color effect on the image and the crops shows little detail. Try turning down the noise reduction, or no noise reduction at all.
Also, is there option to turn down the in-camera saturation? I believe this will help with chroma noise at high ISO.
Also, is there option to turn down the in-camera saturation? I believe this will help with chroma noise at high ISO.
georgl
Member
You're absolutly right - it's always a compromise to achieve the best overall image impression. Most people prefer Canon's heavily filtered JPGs, so I didn't want to shock them with the RAW-truth ;-)
C1 seems to have nice filters, but it is also very harsh with the raw data. Even at lowest ISOs and good signal-to-noise-ratio images look someway "dirty" and revealing finest details. I haven't tried to print them, but at least when looking 100% crops on the monitor the carefully filtered images are "smoother"
Here is one crop without any noise reduction:
C1 seems to have nice filters, but it is also very harsh with the raw data. Even at lowest ISOs and good signal-to-noise-ratio images look someway "dirty" and revealing finest details. I haven't tried to print them, but at least when looking 100% crops on the monitor the carefully filtered images are "smoother"
Here is one crop without any noise reduction:
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