Fuji officially announces M Adapter...

[jsrockit]

As they are touting the use of the ovf with adapted lenses, I would hope that there is a focus means available other than zone focusing for use with the ovf. But, if there were, then I would have thought it would have been announced with the rest of the adapter info.

I agree. There seems to be missing info or the OVF shouldn't have been mentioned. I have a horrible feeling it'll be zone focus only with the OVF.

All that said, the fuji 35/1.4 is so damn good that I don't see using my uc hexanon in its place on the camera.

Exactly... why would I use a 35mm m mount lens on this camera when Fuji's is really nice and focuses close. I guess the m lenses have short focus throws and not focus by wire though.

 

[semilog]

You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.

With respect to peaking, meh. Using the EVF you already see edge shimmering. It's a bit subtle but it certainly works.

 

[squirrel$$$bandit]

You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.

I didn't know that! Will have to give it a try.

 

[jsrockit]

You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right?

No, I did not know this and thanks for the epiphany! Love it. This camera just keeps getting better. 🙂

 

[Mephiloco]

just do it 😉

I use Leica R and Minolta MD lenses on my GXR 🙂

I have a GXR on the way and was wondering what non-M, non fd lenses to look into that are worth throwing on it.

 

[tbarker13]

You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.

With respect to peaking, meh. Using the EVF you already see edge shimmering. It's a bit subtle but it certainly works.

Thanks for the tip. Can't wait to try this out.

I went ahead and ordered - as a trial - one of the cheaper adaptors just to see if how my beloved J-3 works on this camera. I really don't like using EVF, but maybe I can grow to like it.

 

[Dante_Stella]

Anyone realize that where the M adapter allows distortion and vignetting control with M lenses, it also does the same with anything that can be adapted to M - like SLR lenses?

Dante

 

[kanzlr]

I have a GXR on the way and was wondering what non-M, non fd lenses to look into that are worth throwing on it.

OT
I use the Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro, a Minolta 200/4 (late MD) and Minolta 85/2 MD. Excellent lenses.

 

[kermaier]

Most 35mm lenses marked as not mountable? Interesting, I wouldn't call 35mm focal length problematic.

It looks like the lenses with the more deeply-protruding rear elements are flagged, no?

 

[palec]

It looks like the lenses with the more deeply-protruding rear elements are flagged, no?

Well, Summilux 35 v1 and Summicron 35 V4 (marked in list as 3rd 1980年～) have minimal protruding rears (and are not supported according to list), much less then Summicron 35 ASPH or Elmarit 28 v3 (which are are supported).

 

[kermaier]

Well, Summilux 35 v1 and Summicron 35 V4 (marked in list as 3rd 1980年～) have minimal protruding rears (and are not supported according to list), much less then Summicron 35 ASPH or Elmarit 28 v3 (which are are supported).

Hmm. I thought there was some physical issue that made the pre-Ashperical 'Lux problematic on the M8/M9? Same for the early production of the CV 35/1.2 Nokton v1, I think. But that does seem odd about the v4 'Cron....

 

[noimmunity]

My M9 will be sold soon... 😱 (but not because of the adapter).

Good time to make that move.
Look forward to seeing your reports on the X2.

 

[ananobes]

my hopes are simple

my hopes are simple

My hopes for this adapter are much more simple.... and they are that it will:

* make the OVF actually usable! :bang:

With fuji lenses the brightness of the information displayed in the OVF (framelines, ISO, shutter speed ect) changes automatically depending on the brightness of the scene.

With legacy lenses this does not happen... rendering the OVF useless in most bright conditions such as an outdoor scene during daylight. Left with only the EVF the XP1 is just another EVIL camera first attempt with a number of usability flaws.

Please give me the ability to set focus with EVF or OVF and then use the OVF to frame and set exposure.

Oh... any maybe also:

* allow exposure compensation in full manual mode 😡

Being restricted to the full stop settings of the shutter speed dial is ridiculousness.

 

[dougi]

My hopes for this adapter are much more simple.... and they are that it will:

* make the OVF actually usable! :bang:

With fuji lenses the brightness of the information displayed in the OVF (framelines, ISO, shutter speed ect) changes automatically depending on the brightness of the scene.

With legacy lenses this does not happen... rendering the OVF useless in most bright conditions such as an outdoor scene during daylight. Left with only the EVF the XP1 is just another EVIL camera first attempt with a number of usability flaws.

Please give me the ability to set focus with EVF or OVF and then use the OVF to frame and set exposure.

Oh... any maybe also:

* allow exposure compensation in full manual mode 😡

Being restricted to the full stop settings of the shutter speed dial is ridiculousness.

Hopefully, given that it is a smart adapter, it will know that a lens it attached and will provide the correct OVF brightness. We will have to wait and see!

 

[willie_901]

I use the OVF/EVF toggle method frequently with the Fujinon lenses. I would hope Fuji adds a zoom option with a lower magnification because of my shaky hands. Having normal, mid and high zoom modes would be useful. With the XP1 fine adjustments with the 35/1.4 fly-by-wire focus barrel are not a problem. I would expect an analog lens would be even easier to focus once the focus was close.

 

[mouren]

* allow exposure compensation in full manual mode 😡

Being restricted to the full stop settings of the shutter speed dial is ridiculousness.

You can do that by pressing the left and right button on the back. Yes, the dial is in full stop, but with the left and right arrows, you can change in 1/3 steps in either direction.

This is in the manual btw.

 

[f16sunshine]

The lens compatibility list makes no sense. I guess we have to wait and see.

 

[jsrockit]

Look forward to seeing your reports on the X2.

I'll try to post some photos within weeks of getting the camera. I'm not the testing type... it either works or it doesn't. However, I'll at least be able to say how I think it compares to the X1, the X100, the GXR, and the X-Pro1.

 

[david.elliott]

I use the OVF/EVF toggle method frequently with the Fujinon lenses. I would hope Fuji adds a zoom option with a lower magnification because of my shaky hands. Having normal, mid and high zoom modes would be useful. With the XP1 fine adjustments with the 35/1.4 fly-by-wire focus barrel are not a problem. I would expect an analog lens would be even easier to focus once the focus was close.

I would love a lower magnification option.

 

[ananobes]

You can do that by pressing the left and right button on the back. Yes, the dial is in full stop, but with the left and right arrows, you can change in 1/3 steps in either direction.

This is in the manual btw.

Great pick-up mouren. That's another work-around happily. But, that's all it appears to be, a happy coincidence.

I checked the manual and under Manual Exposure p.27 it makes no mention of being able to adjust the shutter speed in 1/3 increments, with the use of the selector switch or in any other way. Good pickup.

Although, it is mentioned under Program AE (P) p.24 and Long Time Exposure p.28

For Program AE (P) I quote:

"Program Shift : If desired, you can press the selector left or right to other combinations of shutter speed and aperture without altering exposure (program shift)."

It goes on to say that this is not available if "an auto option is selected for ISO in the shooting menu". Well, program shift isn't but changing the exposure is. The selector switch will change either the ISO (if Auto ISO is selected) or shutter speed as you picked up.

This appears to be just another undocumented operation of a camera whose firmware appears written by non photographers whose only previous camera experience was with their phone.

For Long Time Exposure (T/B) it again does not appear relevant, being available to select speeds between 2 and 30 seconds.

Like the operation of the AE-L/AF-L button I find many aspects of the XP1 incomplete, illogical, complicated and often totally random (undocumented).

As a result I am waiting on this M adapter and new firmware in the hope things improve. As it stands and without Adobe raw support I will use my other cameras and leave the XP1 on the desk.