Fuji X Pro-1, Who's Buying?

[gavinlg]

I don't think he's arguing that there's not focus confirmation, just that you don't really know what the camera has focused on (and even with the new X100 firmware, misfocus can happen).

Of course, a rangefinder will show perfect focus, but any alignment issues mean that it's lying to you. And I've only had one DSLR that didn't have some front/back focus issues with some lenses (or all) - and a DSLR screen is small enough that you can't necessarily tell if focus is absolutely spot on.

I can't say that I've missed my intended focusing point once with my x100 in 2012 so far.

 

[splitimageview]

My only beef on that matter is that you can't make the OVF AF point smaller, as you can with the EVF AF points.

Use continuous AF mode, and you get this. Please ignore my kitchen clutter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZSdDFGdGM

 

[Stephen G]

Did not expect to want it.
Had a flash of insight this weekend.. and decided to swap around some kit to make this my second body.

Hope my pre-order ships soon :-/

 

[willie_901]

It is possible to turn on a soft double beep sound that confirms in OVF when the focus mode switch is set to MF. You use the AF button to manually lock focus. Of course there's the focus DOF bar as well.There is no parallax correction. It is difficult to know exactly where the focus point is especially when the subject is about 12 feet or less away.

In AF mode the double beep sound is still an option in OVF mode. With a shutter half press a new focus box appears inbetween the initial focus region on the screen and the parallax box. When focus is locked the box turns green. If focus is not found he box turns red. The new focus box position is a computed estimate of the actual focus point. The closer the subject, the less precise the estimate. So it is possible the indicated focus region is not where you think it is. However in my experience this is rare. Of course the focus scale is still present if you turn it on.

EVF works a bit differently.

 

[jsrockit]

I can't say that I've missed my intended focusing point once with my x100 in 2012 so far.

I'll admit it... I have, but generally it is my fault i.e. when I try to focus on something too close using the OVF instead of EVF.

 

[RealXenuis]

Lens arrived

Lens arrived

Glad to help.

Lens arrived yesterday from HK. I ordered March 7th so the turnaround was about 3 biz days, total. I would say that's pretty incredible coming from China to Texas! The lens build, IMO, is quite excellent. I can't wait to pop it on the camera when it arrives.

 

[splitimageview]

Nice, Gentry!

I'm curious, what does the warranty card say? Is it international warranty?

 

[noimmunity]

Lens arrived yesterday from HK. I ordered March 7th so the turnaround was about 3 biz days, total. I would say that's pretty incredible coming from China to Texas! The lens build, IMO, is quite excellent. I can't wait to pop it on the camera when it arrives.

Wonderful! I should be getting mine by the end of this week.

Did you order from that place in Kaohsiung? Or some other place (I guess so, since you mention the lens coming from HK).

 

[macjim]

Here's a new video review pitting the X-Pro1 against the Leica M9
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHXWf6CKeE

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[Jubb Jubb]

Here's a new video review pitting the X-Pro1 against the Leica M9
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHXWf6CKeE

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Terrible autofocus. He is right saying the fuji is more a digital version of the Contax rather than the Leica. Heck, it isn't even a rangefinder... (although the Contax is)

 

[splitimageview]

That's what all the professional reviews are saying. Terrible, just terrible. 😉

 

[Spyro]

Terrible autofocus.

Like Leica says about everything that is crap on their cameras:
"it is adequate" 🙂

 

[splitimageview]

I shot with it extensively, it is not remotely close to being 'terrible.' 🙂

Just take the time to know how it works.

 

[Spyro]

Just take the time to know how it works.

give us a couple of pointers
(bored, waiting for the camera to arrive)

 

[Jubb Jubb]

Like Leica says about everything that is crap on their cameras:
"it is adequate" 🙂

hah, I was quoting from the video above my comment.

 

[nickw]

Here's a new video review pitting the X-Pro1 against the Leica M9
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHXWf6CKeE

Thanks for posting. I feel like Kai made a solid point at the end when he said:
The x pro 1 is brilliant, but flawed, it' the best auto focus digital... what ever you call it, at the MOMENT, but that's because fuji doesn't have much competition. Take it or leave it.

 

[nickw]

Regarding this blog, which I'm sure we've all seen by now.
He's got some great images. And thus he should, he's a great photographer.
http://zackarias.com/blog/

But one thing troubles me. Today he said he's on assignment from Fuji to review the Xpro1.
Given an xpro1 and a trip to india to use it on. If Fuji is paying, it certainly introduces doubt into what he says. He kinda has to be nice.

Makes me think he will abstain from mentioning a legit complaint. Or if he is to mention one, that he will downplay it, while being liberal in it's praises.

Not knocking him. I'd love to have his job, and given the chance I would do it too.
I just think it's just it's worth keeping in mind while reading his blog.

 

[nickw]

And lastly, here's my take on the xpro1.

It seems like a solid camera, with great image quality. Certainly capable of producing beautiful images. It's got a lot going for it. Great colour, smashing iso performance, good sharpness, nice glass (from what I've seen), affordable price point for body and glass… but it does reportedly have it's AF issues. And I'm not talking the manual vs AF debate. But rather within the AF world, it's got some limitations. Which at this price point is a let down. To me this is my primary concern.

I do hope the AF issues get sorted. I could live with AF, as long as it gets out of my way.
Images look great. No complaints there. It just comes down to a handling and enjoyment of use.
A camera needs to get out of my way, and just let me work.

For me at this point, I'm going to wait and see what leica announces on May 10th.
I think I'd rather have an M8 with it's limits and invest into the M platform. Then buy an m9 once the price comes down. Long term I think I will be happier. I'm not writing the fuji off yet. It's a great camera from what I've seen. But the usability factor is huge for me.

Going to wait and see what May 10th brings before I spend my coin.

 

[noimmunity]

But one thing troubles me. Today he said he's on assignment from Fuji to review the Xpro1.
Given an xpro1 and a trip to india to use it on. If Fuji is paying, it certainly introduces doubt into what he says. He kinda has to be nice.

Zack told his blog readers about the deal with Fuji from the get go, mentioning at the very start the terms of his arrangement with Fuji:
"I’m also allowed to say anything I want to about it. I can love it, hate it, or be indifferent."

The photos he's posting speak for themselves.

 

[noimmunity]

but it does reportedly have it's AF issues.

especially among people who: a) haven't actually used the camera; b) don't care to learn how to use it; and c) expect contrast detection to work like phase detection, or for an OVF/EVF to work like DSLR viewfinders.