emraphoto
Veteran
Someone had asked 'manual focus, how?'
wouldn't focus confirmation and the already existing focus ring work?
wouldn't focus confirmation and the already existing focus ring work?
arturo
Member
To those regretting or complaining about the fixed lens: I think this is a constraint imposed by the OVF. I would be too complicated, particularly for a first attempt, to build a zoom optical viewfinder.
Paul T.
Veteran
No?No. the VIEWFINDER shows a distance scale. At least in the catalogue.
read through, and you'll see people understand this very well. Why wouldn't the screen show a distance scale, too? So, you don't mean no, you mean "I don't think so, but I don't really know."
Everyone expects a M9 at $2000 by these manufactuers, but it isn't going to happen. Then Fuji finally seems to get it right and people still complain...
Yup. We all have an addiction to comparing prices with our discount GF1s or second hand M6s or hexar AFs. Much as I'd like to pay $900, it ain't gonna happen for a Cult Camera - like this will become.
user237428934
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No?
read through, and you'll see people understand this very well. Why wouldn't the screen show a distance scale, too? So, you don't mean no, you mean "I don't think so, but I don't really know."
Someone wrote "Why do camera manufacturers believe we like to buy cameras that we need to hold at arm's length? ".
My answer was, that you have a distance scale in the viewfinder so there is no need to look at the screen. So "No" is the right answer. No?
M
M like Leica M6
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To those regretting or complaining about the fixed lens: I think this is a constraint imposed by the OVF. I would be too complicated, particularly for a first attempt, to build a zoom optical viewfinder.
The wonderful Canon VT had that in 1957.
Why do camera manufacturers believe we like to buy cameras that we need to hold at arm's length?![]()
You don't have to hold them at arm's length.
M
M like Leica M6
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Someone wrote "Why do camera manufacturers believe we like to buy cameras that we need to hold at arm's length? ".
My answer was, that you have a distance scale in the viewfinder so there is no need to look at the screen. So "No" is the right answer. No?
Well, looking into the viewfinder to see a digital scale or watch a digital display... instead of a simple scale?
Paul T.
Veteran
He is well aware that there is a distance scale in the viewfinder, he's quoted a statement to that effect. So we're not getting any further, are we?Someone wrote "Why do camera manufacturers believe we like to buy cameras that we need to hold at arm's length? ".
My answer was, that you have a distance scale in the viewfinder so there is no need to look at the screen. So "No" is the right answer. No?
The lack of distance scale on the lens is a pain, but again, it's functionally pretty similar to the hexar AF, perhaps better for manual focusing - the truth is, we don't know, and it's pretty subjective. I've seen people praise the GF1's manual focus, personally I find it useless.
Great buzz for a new toy. I am very interested in how it comes out. And what else comes out in the mirrorless world. Not giving up the E-P1 though until I am sure this is something better... but it sure looks very promising.
And wow, there are 80 people viewing this one thread. Talk about getting some internet traffic!!!!
And wow, there are 80 people viewing this one thread. Talk about getting some internet traffic!!!!
kshapero
South Florida Man
user237428934
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He is well aware that there is a distance scale in the viewfinder, he's quoted a statement to that effect. So we're not getting any further, are we?
The lack of distance scale on the lens is a pain, but again, it's functionally pretty similar to the hexar AF, perhaps better for manual focusing - the truth is, we don't know, and it's pretty subjective. I've seen people praise the GF1's manual focus, personally I find it useless.
I don' know what someone is aware of so let's stop this.
Manual focussing with the Hexar AF is slow btw and the scale on the Hexar lens is small and useless too. When I wanted to use scale focussing I had a printed scale in my photobag where I looked up what I wanted and dialed that distance into the Hexar. I lived with all the flaws of the Hexar and still love it. The Fuji looks interesting and if the flaws are there where I don't care then it's very interesting.
igi
Well-known
Well, looking into the viewfinder to see a digital scale or watch a digital display... instead of a simple scale?
I guess they can't put any more numbers on that lens barrel.. I mean look how thin that lens is
They probably don't want old people (the market) complaining that they could not read microscopic distance scales
Paul T.
Veteran
I agree with both of those statements. But just because we don't find a flaw a deal-breaker, it doesn't mean it's non-existent. Personally, I'm mroe bothered about having aperture on the lens, than a distance scale, but that's just me.I don' know what someone is aware of so let's stop this.
I lived with all the flaws of the Hexar and still love it. The Fuji looks interesting and if the flaws are there where I don't care then it's very interesting.
I just hope that this camera functions as seamlessly as the Hexar AF - on a digital, particularly with contrast detect AF, there's so much more to get wrong.
Colin Corneau
Colin Corneau
It'll be a success regardless. Many people love the 35mm focal length. Interchangable lenses aren't everything in this type of camera.
Everyone expects a M9 at $2000 by these manufactuers, but it isn't going to happen. Then Fuji finally seems to get it right and people still complain...
Amen...completely agree.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Lets start talking about what will be fixed in the Fuji X200 ... :angel:
ferider
Veteran
I agree with both of those statements. But just because we don't find a flaw a deal-breaker, it doesn't mean it's non-existent. Personally, I'm mroe bothered about having aperture on the lens, than a distance scale, but that's just me.
I just hope that this camera functions as seamlessly as the Hexar AF - on a digital, particularly with contrast detect AF, there's so much more to get wrong.
Let's see what it does, Paul ... in theory, with the hybrid viewfinder, they could even overlay a digital RF "patch" over the optical viewfinder. Just a question of firmware now
I'm sold. The hybrid viewfinder and 35/2 equ. is something I've been waiting for quite a while now ....
antiquark
Derek Ross
To those regretting or complaining about the fixed lens: I think this is a constraint imposed by the OVF. I would be too complicated, particularly for a first attempt, to build a zoom optical viewfinder.
Actually, I think the electronic display paves the way to interchangable lenses. The framelines in the viewfinder are electronic, so they can easily change in size depending on the lens.
bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
Cool toy! Can't wait to see one in person. If there's this much buzz about it, chances are Fuji's going to be backlogged for orders well into 2011.
I agree -- it would have been great to have a changeable lens mount, but it's a "livable" compromise. If the Fujinon lens is excellent, and the user-interface is good, Fuji will have a real winner on their hands.
I agree -- it would have been great to have a changeable lens mount, but it's a "livable" compromise. If the Fujinon lens is excellent, and the user-interface is good, Fuji will have a real winner on their hands.
PKR
Veteran
The industrial design is absolutely consistent with the recently-released MF folders.
Yes, I'm sure the same design team was involved. Having owned a number of Fujifilm cameras, I can say they are some of the best cameras I've used. Fuji lens quality is really good.
I currently have an S5 (Nikon built) that is all Nikon outside. The extended dynamic range on the S5 is at the cost of resolution. It's a fair trade. I wonder how the "new" processor will handle the upper bandwidth "blow-out"? This camera is more "Fuji-like" than other current "consumer" products. I wonder who the builder is? Maybe the same as the folder?
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bobby_novatron
Photon Collector
BTW there's a X100 promotional video, if anyone's interested. It's a "development announcement" by Fuji. The video has the most annoying sound-effects I've ever been subjected to, but it's otherwise interesting:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/1854/
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/1854/
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