Fuji X100 Digital SOMETHING from Fujifilm

semilog said:
No doubt that there are serious questions here, but you are acting as though they are already answered.

How much do you actually know about how the focusing in this camera, works, Juan?
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Even if there's any electronic aid or device, there's no visual system for fast manual focusing... Is there?

Cheers,

Juan
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
As you're curious, I'll explain: I started using autofocus 25 years ago and yet I use it sometimes.

All the time I've had some out of focus shots and also some delay caused by low light and subject movement. Maybe I have good sight, but manual focus is faster and more precise to me. And at least seeing through lens you can know a bit more what's happening with your autofocus...
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You definitely have better sight than anyone I know, including my pro and semi-pro photog friends who all use AF for at least 98 shots out of 100. (As differentiated from my artist friends, who don't make any money from photography but have gallery shows and also use AF for 98 shots out of 100, unless they're using 120 or LF).

That's all I can say.
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
Even if there's any electronic aid or device, there's no visual system for fast manual focusing... Is there?
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We don't know yet. What we do know is that there is more potential for such confirmation with the optical system implemented here than in any previous mirorless digital camera.

I find it astonishing that you would so thoroughly condemn a camera based on a lack of information about its capabilities. I have many questions about this camera. I am withholding judgement until they are answered, and trying to get accurate answers.
 
zumbido said:
You definitely have better sight than anyone I know, including my pro and semi-pro photog friends who all use AF for at least 98 shots out of 100. (As differentiated from my artist friends, who don't make any money from photography but have gallery shows and also use AF for 98 shots out of 100, unless they're using 120 or LF).

That's all I can say.
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I don't photograph moving subjects... Not even professionally. I do street shooting for myself, and fashion, architecture and product for money, and in all fields I prefer manual focus. That's all I can say. Other pros I've worked with it in several studios use manual focus too...

Cheers,

Juan
 
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semilog said:
We don't know yet. What we do know is that there is more potential for such confirmation with the optical system implemented here than in any previous mirorless digital camera.

I find it astonishing that you would so thoroughly condemn a camera based on a lack of information about its capabilities. I have many questions about this camera. I am withholding judgement until they are answered, and trying to get accurate answers.
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I haven't condemned it...:D I just pointed it seemed to me inferior to the M9 or R-D1, but I respect anyone considering it superior...

Cheers,

Juan
 
NickTrop said:
Nobody kvetches because DSLRs look like old film SLRs or that they're trying to hard to be "retro".
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it doesn't quite work, does it?
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
I don't photograph moving subjects... Not even professionally. I do street shooting for myself, and fashion, architecture and product for money, and in all fields I prefer manual focus, even on digital sessions. That's all I can say. Other pros I've worked with it in several studios use manual focus too...
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I would be surprised if you used AF routinely for architectural photography. But that sort of work puts you on the very slim side of the pro world, no?
 
zumbido said:
I would be surprised if you used AF routinely for architectural photography. But that sort of work puts you on the very slim side of the pro world, no?
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No. I specialized -after my career on photography- one year on each, on the three main fields in commercial photography: product, fashion and architecture/interiors.

That background and some years of experience put me in a certain place... For each professional photographer buying a compact digicam there are 10,000 hobbyists who will buy it. I'm not blinded by that camera in the slightest way. It would do absolutely nothing for my photography.

Cheers,

Juan
 
Why do discussions on cameras always have to turn into a polarised amazing/terrible affair?

And it probably will have a focus confirmation system, at least, in the OVF. And a TTL view through the LCD. And I wouldn't be surprised if they projected a small patch in the center or the OVF with the LCD for focusing. This puts it on par with a modern DSLR as far as focusing is concerned, no? But the crux is, we do not know yet.
 
Fuji has had some great stuff over the years. Would love to get a view of the users manual to under stand handing more. Anyone see one yet?

Might replace my GRD III as my camera but it a bit bigger, but it's a bigger sensor.

B2 (;->
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
What for, a camera without real manual focusing, would be a better tool? As I said, a better tool for the masses, and as I said it will sell well for common people preferring autofocus and wanting background blur... And this is not about me: 99% photographers prefer real focusing...

To me, a better tool, as I said, is a more complete, powerful and efficient one...

This thing isn't a great tool. It's a limited toy. Designed for people who have not gotten great results previously: that's the niche it's aimed at...

Cheers,

Juan
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It's a camera designed at people who want a digital hexar AF style camera. A simple, high quality, no nonsense digital with good controls. Even high end DSLR's don't have a control set that's this good. I don't particularly rate little plastic dials on the front and rear of a camera as a good control set. Neither do I rate the single dial and button to switch between aperture and shutter speeds style of control on lower end DSLR's - the same ones a few here are comparing it too. In fact I hate that control setup. It's sh1t. I like an aperture dial, and a shutter speed dial, and an exposure compensation dial.

As far as it being a "toy" - I'd assume that you also classify the hexar AF and contax G1/G2 cameras as toys then? Because they have the same control style, autofocus and size, and in the case of the hexar - the same fixed lens.
So in effect they aren't made for "real" work? Or "real" photography?

I'm sure Annie Leibovitz might disagree with you :rolleyes:

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Keith said:
Anyway ... twenty five pages of obsessing about a camera that doesn't actually exist yet is worrying. I think some OT talk would be healthy! :p
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Sure! The first 20 pages I didn't post in were a bit boring... They said wow. :p

Now seriously, I always wanted CV to produce a very thin camera, with a big viewfinder and clean framelines: a street joy... When I saw this Fuji I thought they had made that one... It should have had that RF patch, but I understand massive buyers prefer not to focus... It's a business... What a shame! My father would have liked it for sure...

Cheers,

Juan
 
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