Fuji X100 Digital SOMETHING from Fujifilm

[Tompas]

(...) judging by the excitement in this thread it almost seems like a lot of people are not satisfied with their current digital gear. 😀

I have no digital gear.

I've been wisely waiting for this, I guess. 🙂

 

[AJShepherd]

Maybe the manual focus could use a central 'focus spot' where the EVF is overlaid on the OVF, and some kind of indicator when the subject in the focus spot is in focus.
Added to a distance/d.o.f. indicator in the 'head up display' that would be great for manual focus in the OVF.

As far as the $1000 price goes, I hope they don't do the usual trick of rubbing out the '$' and replacing it with a '£' or '€'. There are these things called 'exchange rates', and they're not 1:1!

 

[BillBingham2]

I think manual focus will be using the EVF only.

That would sub optimal (read suck).

B2 (;->

 

[user237428934]

As far as the $1000 price goes, I hope they don't do the usual trick of rubbing out the '$' and replacing it with a '£' or '€'. There are these things called 'exchange rates', and they're not 1:1!

Of course they will.

 

[dazedgonebye]

That would sub optimal (read suck).

B2 (;->

Not the end of the world. Using the Hexar AF, you have only center focus and you have to sort of have faith that you are focusing where you want. This system is much improved over that (surprisingly workable) system.

 

[tapesonthefloor]

If the X100 has a manual focus mode utilising the view from the viewfinder, superimposed with the electronic viewfinder projection of the view from the lens, it would be using a form rangefinder triangulation I guess. Time will tell.

As I mention here, traditional rangefinding using triangulation will be possible, but probably not really necessary.

I also ramble on about manual focus possibilities here, and since the conversation has turned back in that direction I'll link to it instead of reiterating.

I'll state, though, that we seem to be coming to a consensus that a central EVF focus patch overlaid onto the OVF is ideal, as it will allow us to perform our own quick "contrast autofocus". This discussion is all software. Since the software development end of any camera is far more fluid than the hardware, don't expect to hear anything concrete about this system for months yet. They can't even fall back on development for past cameras because the hybrid viewfinder is such a new concept. The good news, though, is that even if they don't master manual focus in time for version 1 of the firmware, somebody eventually will, and that somebody may not be Fujifilm. After a month or two of fiddling with CHDK on a little PowerShot I'm convinced that anything is possible, and I can't say I'll be all that bothered or surprised if Fuji's first software version doesn't live up to expectations. The X100 is a camera worth being patient about.

 

[tonyjuliano]

Shame they didn't write "PRO" on the body, then we could have saved half an hour of our lives reading irrelevant, repetitive posts.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Re triangulation rangefinding - great idea, considering we have a viewfinder and a sensor, I'd be certain it's not designed in, as that would have been tricky to do and they would have mentioned it. My bet would be manual focusing is done entirely via the EVF.

Anyway, my "professional" (where's the 'TM" key?) friend who I'm going out shooting with tomorrow is threatening to race me (the "amateur") to the shop for this. He'll be using it alongside his MF with Sinar back. He reckons he'll be able to smuggle it into gigs and security won't take it seriously.

No mechanical triangulation is necessary if Fuji incorporates their new Phase Detect sensors.

Read all about it here...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10080505fujifilmpd.asp

Utilizing this technology, they could easily give visual feedback to the EVF in order to confirm focus.

It's a wonderful time we are living in, I've been waiting for this camera for ages.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

So a small CMOS sensor in an RF window with an optical wedge in front of it is a non-starter...

Electronicly superimposed on the electronic frameline using EVF technology, just optically superimposed with the viewfinder using a beamsplitter...Framelines electronically compensate for parallax and field-of-view...

 

[DougFord]

If manual focus is available in OVF mode, it would be nice to have a horizontally projected indicator below the frame lines that would represent the focus throw of the lens.
The center patch, (if using Fuji’s newly design PDAF system) or preselected movable projected focus patch (using traditional CDAF) in the OVF would represent the focus point being measured. The horizontal indicator would have the DOF, for the specific aperture selected, represented by the color yellow for example, as you adjusted the manual focus a red vertical indicator would move along the horizontal plane of the DOF indicator, until focus was obtained where upon the indicator would change from red to green. This way you can see front and rear DOF for a given aperture. Fastest AF and the most accurate manual focus will be obtained relying on the PDAF pixels which would presumably be located near the center ‘patch’ of the sensor.

 

[dazedgonebye]

Wait...I just understood the Hybrid Finder. I thought it was just referring to the exposure info superimposed.
Duh!
That's pretty cool...not more attractive to me...but pretty cool.

 

[aizan]

ooh, look at the mirror sliding down! 🙂

at 19s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAtc13O-lI&feature=player_embedded

at 28s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW0J2Lp8gxQ&feature=player_embedded

 

[BillBingham2]

You guys should check out the site: http://www.finepix-x100.com/x100/hybrid-viewfinder

The second image (from the top) changes to show the different functions (it's a bit slow on my computer/connection).

A movable focus point!

I've seen it and my only concern is that it's not on the EVF it MUST be on the Optical Finder TOO. Which is how I am reading it and hoping.

I love the hybrid approach and like what I see, just wondering how manual focus assistance will be implemented. I like what you have on the Nikon D40, a little green light when you hit it would be fine.

I LOVE the metering option and display of where you focus are down at the bottom. I hope that the size of the gray overlay on the focusing scale will increase and shrink as you adjust the f-Stop. Depth of field in the viewfinder would ROCK!! For that I would pay $1000.

Fingers crossed.

B2 (;->

 

[Warren T.]

I haven't been this excited about a new camera announcement in a looooong time 🙂.

The hybrid vf is a real innovative approach, and the styling is gorgeous. If Fuji actually delivers all the goods that they promised, and at the $1000 price-point, I'll buy one for sure.

--Warren

 

[reiki_]

ooh, look at the mirror sliding down! 🙂

at 19s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAtc13O-lI&feature=player_embedded

at 28s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW0J2Lp8gxQ&feature=player_embedded

This is the coolest thing i have seen since I've been like 5 years old.

 

[user237428934]

At the moment I'm thinking about what I would do with this camera. Taking photos? Of course, but the question is when and what impact will it have on my current equipment?
Next week I will go on a 8 day vacation to southern france. I will take most of my equipment with me. Thats the Zeiss Ikon with 35mm Biogon + bw film and the 5DII with 2.8/24mm and 1.4/50mm. The rest of my equipment (elmar-m 50 and a 85mm for the 5D and the hexar AF) stays at home.
Where does the X100 fit in? Not sure right now.

 

[Yashi]

.............996

 

[Yashi]

.............997

 

[Yashi]

..............998

 

[Yashi]

.........999

 

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