Photon42
burn the box
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Some excerpts in English (my quotes in parenthesis). Neither English nor French are my MT, so please be kind:
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Fuji has confirmed beginning of January the rumors around the new camera system. It will take until march, however, until we'll see it filling the dealer's shelves (if they don't get all ordered beforehand
) Price environ €1'300 (note: prob. then also US$ 1'300) with 35mm. Lenses around €600 (per lens, I suspect ...). The camera doesn't play in the same league as other hybrid (mirrorless) cameras. Fuji addresses the experienced photographer and makes little compromises with choice of material and design.
The sensor features Fuji's X-Trans technology and has APS-C size with a 1.5x factor compared to 35mm. They haven't yet given the sensor resolution, but it is stated as "equally or not to say superior to 24x36 senors" (that is a quote of a quote ...). The sensor technology (six filters per pixel? - not sure about the word "photosite") is such that it does not require anymore a moiré filter, which is known to reduce resolution.
Lenses with be all metal fix focus lenses, starting with a 2/18, 1.4/35 and 2.4/60 Macro (all focal lengths not converted to 35mm equiv's).
The Finder will be taken from the X100 (more or less), allowing to switch between optical and electronic view. The optical view finder will adjust to the selected focal length automatically (such as, I guess the electronic one
). It looks like the new Fuji seems to have an external autofocus (but I'm not so sure here they are correct with this).
In addition, a leather pouch and a flash will become available.
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Good news, indeed.
Ivo
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Some excerpts in English (my quotes in parenthesis). Neither English nor French are my MT, so please be kind:
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Fuji has confirmed beginning of January the rumors around the new camera system. It will take until march, however, until we'll see it filling the dealer's shelves (if they don't get all ordered beforehand
The sensor features Fuji's X-Trans technology and has APS-C size with a 1.5x factor compared to 35mm. They haven't yet given the sensor resolution, but it is stated as "equally or not to say superior to 24x36 senors" (that is a quote of a quote ...). The sensor technology (six filters per pixel? - not sure about the word "photosite") is such that it does not require anymore a moiré filter, which is known to reduce resolution.
Lenses with be all metal fix focus lenses, starting with a 2/18, 1.4/35 and 2.4/60 Macro (all focal lengths not converted to 35mm equiv's).
The Finder will be taken from the X100 (more or less), allowing to switch between optical and electronic view. The optical view finder will adjust to the selected focal length automatically (such as, I guess the electronic one
In addition, a leather pouch and a flash will become available.
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Good news, indeed.
Ivo
I only hope that it will have at least AF or MF, not like x100 with no F at all.
Huh? WTF?
raid
Dad Photographer
So the consensus is that the stated focal lengths are in the units for the sensor size, so that a 35mm lens is actually a 50mm lens with this camera or do they actually mean a 35mm focal length as we get on a full sensor?
If the 35mm focal length is being avoided in this camera, then the X100 is being protected. It seems to me that the X100 is a better deal.
If the 35mm focal length is being avoided in this camera, then the X100 is being protected. It seems to me that the X100 is a better deal.
Vobluda
Well-known
NazgulKing
Established
Any knowledge of the Flange distance?
StaaleS
Established
I _think_ it says 17.7 mm flange distance, if I have translatedotgoogledotcom'd it right...
dreilly
Chillin' in Geneva
it's almost impossible to imagine where would you need a pro-dslr-lever autofocus in RF-like camera as an artist! The only possible use would be in sports, and X100, or "serious artist" is a bit out of place shooting skiing, football or F1 racing![]()
If the artist is doing documentary people photography and the people aren't static, I certainly can. Slow autofocus is one thing, but autofocus that fails or focuses on the wrong thing or hunts interminably is a real downer. The RF patch might be a bit slower than some AF systems, but it's consistent and easy to master. I have no experience with the X100, but the reports of poor AF performance have kept me far away. That and the fact that I played with one in a store in Kyoto and I was seriously underwhelmed by both the viewfinder and the build.
Regardless. This new camera looks interesting indeed. The thing that would keep me from early adopting it is waiting to hear about the AF performance.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I _think_ it says 17.7 mm flange distance, if I have translatedotgoogledotcom'd it right...
That would be short enough that you can build an M-mount adapter without the small throat of the Fuji bayonet getting in the way.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
That pic in the lower right corner is a limited addition X100 in black?
Zat ees corret!
NazgulKing
Established
That would be short enough that you can build an M-mount adapter without the small throat of the Fuji bayonet getting in the way.
Not least, Fuji's color rendition has been typically nicer than Sony's OOC Jpegs. This camera might be on my list of cameras to look at.
Just my comment on how desperate is the x100 focusing.
Been using the X100 for 10 months... no focus issues here.
paulfish4570
Veteran
i have no problem at all focusing my x100. i would imagine the same for the x-1.
So the consensus is that the stated focal lengths are in the units for the sensor size, so that a 35mm lens is actually a 50mm lens with this camera or do they actually mean a 35mm focal length as we get on a full sensor?
Focal length on lens x 1.5 = real focal length.
If the 35mm focal length is being avoided in this camera, then the X100 is being protected. It seems to me that the X100 is a better deal.
Better deal only if you want a 35mm equiv.
NazgulKing
Established
In all likelihood, Fuji will simply approach this camera the same way Leica does theirs. Just produce a wide range of primes, slowly but surely...
dogbunny
Registered Boozer
Been using the X100 for 10 months... no focus issues here.Seems people either don't know how to use the camera or never have used the camera.
You should know by now that the people who know the most about the short-comings of a particular camera are those who do not own it.
Archlich
Well-known
Images are coming out:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-image-of-the-fuji-x-pro/
1300 Euros seem nice for a kit.
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-image-of-the-fuji-x-pro/
1300 Euros seem nice for a kit.
raid
Dad Photographer
Focal length on lens x 1.5 = real focal length.
Better deal only if you want a 35mm equiv.
Yes, this is true. If the 35mm focal length is what you want, then the X100 is a good deal.
Haven't seen anything about a US price yet...
I'm hoping Fuji does the whole 1300 euros equals $1300 US thing...instead of a true exchange rate. Sorry eurozoners. 
semordnilap
Well-known
I have a nex-5n plus evf. I don't think of it as an rf, but as a tiny slr. As that, it's great with adapted lenses because you can have program the controls to do what you need...
The fuji vf could be more like an rf, if you can manually focus with the optical image. I hope! Don't know if it's possible to implement focus peaking projected onto an optical image? That would be pretty sweet...
Anyway it looks like an interesting camera. I for one am happy with the diversity of new camera ideas/designs, and I'm looking forward to the coming years!!!
The fuji vf could be more like an rf, if you can manually focus with the optical image. I hope! Don't know if it's possible to implement focus peaking projected onto an optical image? That would be pretty sweet...
Anyway it looks like an interesting camera. I for one am happy with the diversity of new camera ideas/designs, and I'm looking forward to the coming years!!!
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