f6andBthere
Well-known
A couple of things have become obvious to me reading through this thread:
If Fuji is talking about offering adapters for non Fujinon lenses then the manual focus function in this camera is going to be a world away from the pathetic system in the X100!
Canon and Nikon can no longer sit on their hands protecting their DSLR market ... they have to come up with something similar soon or Fuji will make them look foolish and will take a lead over them that could be hard to pull back!
If Fuji is talking about offering adapters for non Fujinon lenses then the manual focus function in this camera is going to be a world away from the pathetic system in the X100!
Canon and Nikon can no longer sit on their hands protecting their DSLR market ... they have to come up with something similar soon or Fuji will make them look foolish and will take a lead over them that could be hard to pull back!
BMacW
Established
Listening to her, it seems they have some mighty specific plan for the M adapter.
Because the lens can go so deep into the body, would it be possible that the adapter will have the electrical contact built-in to the X mount AND it will read in mechanically the focus distance and the frame line (focal lens)?
Pete B
Well-known
sojournerphoto
Veteran
It looks genuinely interesting - the size looks very close to M9 and rf territory, which may be a slight put off for me, but I see it as an slr alternative at this point. My 1959 135 elmar becomes a 200 f4 lens, which is as long as I ever use anyway for terrestial photography. I wonder if it will focus on my telescope?
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
If someone approached me on a solar powered desert island with an M9 in one hand and this or any other crop camera in the other....I know which I'd take
Without trying either?
f6andBthere
Well-known
I think the classifieds are going to be very busy over the next month or so ... I'm expecting some tasty bargains as people build their banks for this latest offering from Fuji.
Haha, even as a M9 owner I have to say that is ridiculous.
Puts the Fuji into perspective completely.
anselwannab
Well-known
I though that was odd too. The camera has a normal shutter correct? Why open it to change lenses?
With Fuji putting this much money into developing a whole line of lenses, I don't see them switching to a FF body anytime soon. Not really an issue since the lenses they are coming out with are short and fast enough. I really don't think that they could effectively cover a FF sensor, but I guess that will take someone rigging one up on an optical stand and testing it out.
What is so frickin' magical about 35FF anyway? It is *******ized (born of illegitimate means) 70mm film ripped in half that was pirated from movie cameras, not some magical dimensions that came down from the mountian on the third tablet with the 11-15th commandments.
Sure, I prefer bigger sensors, but my 5DII is almost frightening in the amount of detail it can record.
Let Leica re-live the old days of 35mm film- which frankly was a big break from the larger films commonly used at the time. Let a new Leica set the standard for the optimum in imae quality, compactness and usability. Maybe the Fuji isn't it, but sure seems closer than the M9.
f6andBthere
Well-known
Well ... getting an M9 has always been 'taking a bit of a punt' in my books ... so that narrows the choice somewhat!
noimmunity
scratch my niche
The same reasoning would work, of course, for those who wish to replace both the 21 and the 28 with a single 24/25.
24 - 50 is working really well for me these days, so I'd love to be able to keep that in the new Fuji X mount. Undoubtedly, if the project is commercially viable, they will eventually release one.
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
The same reasoning would work, of course, for those who wish to replace both the 21 and the 28 with a single 24/25.
24 - 50 is working really well for me these days, so I'd love to be able to keep that in the new Fuji X mount. Undoubtedly, if the project is commercially viable, they will eventually release one.
I agree the 24/5 is a great lens to have and I was a bit reluctant to sell mine but I find when travelling, especially for narrow lanes or tight interiors in Europe that the 25 sometimes just didn't make it, whereas I could shoot the 21 and just do a tiny crop when printing if necessary. And as noted before, I tend to use the 35/1.4 as my standard lens rather than the 50/2.5 I have.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
Funny coincidence, 'cause I had just written and eliminated a reference to an X mount 35 efov with a wide aperture of f/1.4 ... With a lens like that, I could be really happy with a kit of 21-35-75, too.
But for now, the 35 efov in the works is an f/2. And the really fast normal for the system, at least for the moment, is a 50 efov.
It's all personal preference, to be sure. But it looks to me like the system is biased towards using the 50 as a normal.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
So now that the M9 seems to have the kinks largely gone, and is producing incredible images with no crop.......
not to mention being dragged from afghanistan to detroit....
you have pre-ordered an utterly unknown commodity.
not to say you shouldn't, but you imply an M9 is within reach for you. Which somewhat removes a major factor in considering the Xpro-1.
If someone approached me on a solar powered desert island with an M9 in one hand and this or any other crop camera in the other....I know which I'd take
I've tried the M9 - it is not "within reach" for me - I don't have the money and I vacillated on how I could, potentially, make it work - it involved selling off a lot of my current SLR equipment which has been 1) very dependable and 2) actually does earn me enough money in a year to at least cover an X-Pro1 - and as someone who's seen the files from the M9, I wasn't as impressed with the files (especially when I consider the sensor) - plus I have experience of the M8 which leaves me feeling like I'm going to have similar or worse issues with the M9 (especially if you read some of the problem threads).
Now, is this an unknown commodity? yes.
Have i pre-ordered one? not really - I haven't placed any money, I've simply put my name on a list and once the purchasing manager is back from Las Vegas, I will discuss it with him - hence my statement "pre-pre-order".
Would I be willing to try this based on what I've seen out of the x100 - sure - I have an x10 and I like the files at 3200ISO so I can't imagine that an APS-C size sensor from in a fuji camera can currently be any worse - can't say the same for the M9 at the same ISO mind you.
Cheers,
Dave
jarski
Veteran
f6andBthere
Well-known
Offering a limited edition black version of the X100 at a premium price is very 'Leica' in it's interpretation IMO.
I don't think Solms will be worrying too much but they'll definitely be paying attention!
TobiasL
Member
I look forward seeing some reviews on this camera but manual focusing appears to be the same as in X100 (fly-by-wire) which could be a problem. I couldn't stand manual focusing on X100. However, AF seems to be relative fast in the videos I've seen. They say it's faster than X100 at least.
Also, the M-mount adapter is suppose to be released in 2012. Check this video out where Fujifilm rep talks about some of these things: http://vimeo.com/34890330
Also, the M-mount adapter is suppose to be released in 2012. Check this video out where Fujifilm rep talks about some of these things: http://vimeo.com/34890330
uhoh7
Veteran
Well ... getting an M9 has always been 'taking a bit of a punt' in my books ... so that narrows the choice somewhat!
LOL LOL LOL
spawning witty retorts as a community service, thank you, thank you.
imagine that Jack Benny sigh......
all things considered, the xpro-1 is a bold move and it will be fun to see the resuts. Bravo to Fuji!
nighstar
eternal beginner
....here i am calling myself sitting on my hands waiting for Olympus' big announcement but at the same time i've already signed up for stock notifications for the X-Pro 1 and am already debating which lens i should get...! UGH! :bang:
but seriously..... 18mm/27mm which is my normal lens or 60mm/90mm which is my must-have macro? it's impossible to choose!
.....maybe i will just have to stick with my GRD4 for wide angle shots.....
[/me thinking aloud]
but seriously..... 18mm/27mm which is my normal lens or 60mm/90mm which is my must-have macro? it's impossible to choose!
.....maybe i will just have to stick with my GRD4 for wide angle shots.....
noimmunity
scratch my niche
....here i am calling myself sitting on my hands waiting for Olympus' big announcement but at the same time i've already signed up for stock notifications for the X-Pro 1 and am already debating which lens i should get...! UGH! :bang:
but seriously..... 18mm/27mm which is my normal lens or 60mm/90mm which is my must-have macro? it's impossible to choose!
.....maybe i will just have to stick with my GRD4 for wide angle shots.....[/me thinking aloud]
Looking at your photos, I don't see how you could do without either the 28 and the 90 (efov). I think after those two, you could probably do best with the 40/2.8 pancake. Now, if budget is a concern, I'd say you start with the 28, as it seems to be your main mileage lens. After that, maybe one of the zooms will work for you.
But y'know, there's no rush on this.